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:)) I play for years and never happened to me ...
But other nations receive gifts from others ... :D
 

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Clear your mind must be, if you are to discover the real villains behind this plot.
 

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i dont know if i remember correctly, but either the DW expansion or some patch made it possible for the AI to send gifts. Bohemia/Austria/Bavaria usually make a lot of gifts to ensure they still get voted in the Reichsrat.
However, the player cant be the target of gifts, i guess because of gameplay reasons or something like that.

As long as i get war subsidies every now and then, im happy :)
 

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i dont know if i remember correctly, but either the DW expansion or some patch made it possible for the AI to send gifts.
I've seen plenty of gifts between AI countries even in the original EU3. You may be thinking of the relatively recent change where the AI will now send war subsidies (to AI and to the player).
 

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They probably should add another option of increasing diplomatic relations, instead of spending 1 diplomat + ~10-15 gold for something like +15-25 x diplomatic skill modifier worth of relations, you could send diplomats for free, but only get about 1/2 of the send gift value. This would make diplomats much more valuable. On top of that AI would be capable of actually conducting diplomacy with human without sending them money (which is why i assume it was disabled?).

On a side note, a new mechanic that would handle all this automatically would be awesome. You know those cases where you have a whole bunch of vassals, you annex one the other 20 get -100 relations, and its sort of annoying to spend next 10 years sending gifts to get relations back to 200... One of the reasons i hate to play as France seriously (since i dont like to do gamey stuff like cancel vassalization + dow etc).
 

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They probably should add another option of increasing diplomatic relations, instead of spending 1 diplomat + ~10-15 gold for something like +15-25 x diplomatic skill modifier worth of relations, you could send diplomats for free, but only get about 1/2 of the send gift value. This would make diplomats much more valuable. On top of that AI would be capable of actually conducting diplomacy with human without sending them money (which is why i assume it was disabled?).

On a side note, a new mechanic that would handle all this automatically would be awesome. You know those cases where you have a whole bunch of vassals, you annex one the other 20 get -100 relations, and its sort of annoying to spend next 10 years sending gifts to get relations back to 200... One of the reasons i hate to play as France seriously (since i dont like to do gamey stuff like cancel vassalization + dow etc).
Sounds like way too much micromanagement, and handling it automatically would either mean you never had any diplomats for useful purposes (if diplomat income is low) or relations are meaningless (if you diplomat income is high). It'd also be hard for the AI to know who to bribe.

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OP: I assume it's disabled because there isn't really any advantage to the AI to increase relations with you.
 

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OP: I assume it's disabled because there isn't really any advantage to the AI to increase relations with you.
Most likely; it isn't as if their gifts would prevent you from declaring war or allow them to diplo-vassalize and annex you.
 

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They probably should add another option of increasing diplomatic relations, instead of spending 1 diplomat + ~10-15 gold for something like +15-25 x diplomatic skill modifier worth of relations, you could send diplomats for free, but only get about 1/2 of the send gift value. This would make diplomats much more valuable. On top of that AI would be capable of actually conducting diplomacy with human without sending them money (which is why i assume it was disabled?).

On a side note, a new mechanic that would handle all this automatically would be awesome. You know those cases where you have a whole bunch of vassals, you annex one the other 20 get -100 relations, and its sort of annoying to spend next 10 years sending gifts to get relations back to 200... One of the reasons i hate to play as France seriously (since i dont like to do gamey stuff like cancel vassalization + dow etc).

What about just asking for military access? When you have it, you get a bonus of 0.30 pr. month, to relations with the country...And of course keeping your infamy low will help too!
 

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I can attest that at least back to EU2, the AI has been hardcoded to not send gifts to the player, but will routinely send gifts to other AI nations. The reason given was that it would be exploitable by the player. And, quite frankly, its not hard to see how it would be. At least we are not still in the era where the AI would start funnelling massive amounts of cash into any nation that the player is at war with.
 

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It can happen. It wasn't often, but in my whole EU3 career I got gifts in roughly a dozen games. However, the last time was back in IN, so it might be gone for good.

And: No screenshots. :(
 

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It can happen. It wasn't often, but in my whole EU3 career I got gifts in roughly a dozen games. However, the last time was back in IN, so it might be gone for good.

And: No screenshots. :(

You do realize that many people will think this is quite unlikely to be true, don't you? :p

Do you remember anything special about the circumstances? For example, were you playing as a small elector or as the Papal States perhaps?
 

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I don't remember getting any in IN ...
Well , i've got gifts from the ai , they are called 'war subsidies'

That's fun when you play a small country , starting in like 1650 , and then Spain gives you 80/month , which was more than my total income ... straight inflation-free to my coffers!
 

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It can happen. It wasn't often, but in my whole EU3 career I got gifts in roughly a dozen games. However, the last time was back in IN, so it might be gone for good.

And: No screenshots. :(

Bah, I would really like screen shot of that. Of course, war subsidies don't count. The AI treats those as an entirely different feature and the AI will occasionally give them out to a player who is at war with one of its rivals.