Hands-Off Country

[GeneralSnoopy]

Hands-Off Country:

North American Native Tribes: eliminated in AGCEEP
Kongo: with the recent changes likely to get into conflicts with Portugal
Mongolia: with Russia-In-Mongolia events will no longer be isolated

There don't seem to be any countries left that would make a good hands-off country. Consequently, I would like to propose a switchable option that would create a hands-off country. We could put it in Hawaii. We shouldn't make it a part of the AGCEEP standard setup since it would unnecessarily slow-down the execution speed by 1-2% (based on estimates I read in the Hawaii thread).

 

[Twoflower]

Wouldn't it be possible to use the "Alun's reformation mod" (MUS) country for handsoffs?

 

[unmerged(12680)]

Wouldn't it be possible to use the "Alun's reformation mod" (MUS) country for handsoffs?

Isn't that whole sequence based on AI-option choosing probabilities? "Nay" would muck it all up with God knows what effects on Europe's religious makeup...

We need a good handsoff country!

 

[Twoflower]

Isn't that whole sequence based on AI-option choosing probabilities? "Nay" would muck it all up with God knows what effects on Europe's religious makeup...

We need a good handsoff country!

Well, if you are doing a handsoff, you will not be likely to choose weird options that mess up Europe's religious makeup, no? And using "ney", which I suppose everybody running a handsoff does, the A option will always be picked anyway, and that would result in all provinces getting their historical religion -if they don't, there is a error (of historical accuracy) in the reformation events.

 

[unmerged(12680)]

Well, if you are doing a handsoff, you will not be likely to choose weird options that mess up Europe's religious makeup, no? And using "ney", which I suppose everybody running a handsoff does, the A option will always be picked anyway, and that would result in all provinces getting their historical religion -if they don't, there is a error (of historical accuracy) in the reformation events.

Ehm, looking at the tons of reformation events I must say I don't think it's quite that easy... And since "ney" will always pick the "a" choice in every event the reformation will always turn out the same, which is bad for observationaly purposes since it will not do that once you actually play the game.

So yes, a good handsoff country is lacking.

 

[WiSK]

Why not use the Aleutian Islands? Give it U99 and a huge fort.

 

[Archaalen]

Maybe if the map hackers get anywhere, they can provide us with a county called "Observer" surrounded by PTI.

 

[Cagliostro]

Why not use the Aleutian Islands? Give it U99 and a huge fort.

I think Hawaii is better, frankly. I've never managed to settle Hawaii successfully, but I have settled the Aleuts. Then again, the AI isn't likely to do either, and we're talking about a hands-off game.

 

[unmerged(17856)]

I use Ternate for my hands off games.

 

[GeneralSnoopy]

Hawaii it is

I've created a country file and monarch file for the hands-off country. I've decided to call it "The Watchers". It is located in the Hawaiian province of "Kauai"--about as remote as you can get. We currently have a lot of nation tags, but when we run low we can then delete this nation. I chose the ZEE tag.

Is there some way of arranging it so that a switchable option would be unnecessary? Namely, that this nation would only come into existence when the nation is selected. The solution would apply to Independent Wales, this hands-off nation, and Vinland (a fantasy country I'm working on).


# The Watchers #
# -- Hands-Off Country --#
country = {
tag = ZEE
ai = "peaceful.ai"
badboy = 0
treasury = 50
income = 0
inflation = 0
cancelledloans = 0
extendedloans = 0
loansize = 100
colonialattempts = 0
whiteman = 0
colonialnation = no
major = no
colonists = 0
diplomats = 0
merchants = 0
missionaries = 0
dynamism = 0
#leadertable =
monarchtable = "AGCEEP\Db\Monarchs\monarchs.zee"
religion = { type = pagan }
culture = { type = Gaelic }
diplomacy = { }
knownprovinces = { 812 }
ownedprovinces = { 812 }
controlledprovinces = { 812 }
nationalprovinces = { 812 }
city = {
name = "Observer"
population = 1000
location = 812
capital = yes
fortress = { level = 6 }
}
technology = {
land = { date = { year = 0 month = january day = 0 } level = 0 value = 0 }
naval = { date = { year = 0 month = january day = 0 } level = 0 value = 0 }
stability = { date = { year = 0 month = january day = 0 } level = 3 value = 0 }
trade = { date = { year = 0 month = january day = 0 } level = 0 value = 0 }
infra = { date = { year = 0 month = january day = 0 } level = 0 value = 0 }
}
}

# The Watchers
# -- Hands-off Country
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 19979 }
startdate = {
year = 1400
}
deathdate = {
year = 1840
}
name = "Tribunal"
DIP = 9
MIL = 9
ADM = 9
}

EDIT: Incorporated Twoflower's suggestion.

 

[Twoflower]

Put it in Hawaii rather than in the Aleutes. Ideally the Russian AI should be colonizing the Aleutes in the end of the game, although that's of course a little illusoric right now

 

[unmerged(6159)]

If 1748 is the end of the game. Illusory either way...

 

[Khephren]

The easiest solution ( the one I use ) is to add MER to the playable countries. Mercenaries is the best hands off country because you get absolutely no diplomacy, rebels, bankruptcies, etc.

 

[GeneralSnoopy]

Mer ?

The easiest solution ( the one I use ) is to add MER to the playable countries. Mercenaries is the best hands off country because you get absolutely no diplomacy, rebels, bankruptcies, etc.

I tried putting MER in the list of playable countries, but it doesn't show up in the drop-down list of countries. What else do you do to implement your solution?

 

[almoravid]

If 1748 is the end of the game. Illusory either way...

Does AGCEEP end in 1748? No Nappy? It's a shame. Or is it rather the current CTD date?

EDIT: And why not use Zimbabwe? Does anybody bother them?

 

[PJL]

Use Zimbabwe in the current patch.

 

[Archaalen]

No, the game goes to 1819, as advertised, he was saying that Russia should be colonizing the Aleuts BY 1748.

 

[GeneralSnoopy]

Use Zimbabwe in the current patch.

I have seen Portugal get into wars with Zimbabwe.

 

[maekh]

No, the game goes to 1819, as advertised, he was saying that Russia should be colonizing the Aleuts BY 1748.

In my last game austria was closer to it than russia

 

[DSYoungEsq]

Yikes!!!! Now that is one BWB!!!!!