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Once again a short, badly detailed AAR

During this game, Austria was never leader of any alliance, therefore most of her wars were due to alliance play and not from her own will. More than half the total time found Austria at war.

In 1617, Austria is a middle power in Central Europe.
In the South is a mighty Turkey.
East is Poland.
North are many German minors
West are more German minor and Switzerland.
South are Venice, Spain controlled Milan and then Italian minors.
Austria has no access to the sea, no COT on her territories.
We are allied with Spain. The Holy Roman Emperor is Austrian, giving our troops access to all HRE territories in times of war.

Alliances in time will shift from Spain to Russia. Russia will be the leader of a Russian-Danish-Hanseatic-Venetian-Austrian coalition. However, both Spain and Russia kept fighting everyone, dragging Austria in countless wars. Hopefully, Austria has so many neighbours that there is always lots of ennemies to fight. Sometimes too many in fact.

France is allied with Poland and Savoy which are its vassals (or at least became its vassal during the game).
Turkey is allied with lots of Muslim minors and sometimes with European powers as well, Sweden and even Prussia at the end of the game.

The Spanish wars
Spain dragged Austria in wars against France, therefore Against Poland too and some Italian minor.
During a war, Austrian troops crossing Spanish Milan assault, conquer and annex Parma. This lower our relations with all catholic countries…
Later on, Spain annex Lorraine and there is war against some German minors. Austria annex bavaria and Wurtemberg, leading to further downgrading of her diplomatic relations… In a subsequent war against France and Poland, separate peaces leave Austria and France at war alone against each other. France conquers Parma and as Spain is no more at war, I cannot send troops through Milan. France asks for Parma and 250 gold and I always refuse : they cannot access more Austrian territories, but I can. As Emperor, we can cross Switzerland to reach Lyon, what we do. After conquering Lyon, we propose a white peace but France refuses. We then conquer Cevennes and Auvergne (nearly unfortified) and ask for peace but this time asking Lyon, which we get !

Now Austria has two unreachable provinces (in time of peace) : Lyonnais anad Parma, and France has a permanent CB against Austria. The wars against Poland are draw, because Poland is much too strong to oppose directly. So I’ve heavily fortified all bordering provinces. Polish armies lay siege to a province and I place a relief army next to it. When my province is about to fall or the Poles have low morale, we strike at them, win generally and then withdraw to wait the next opportunity. Using this tactic, Austria manages to contain Poland.
At the next emperor’s election, we lose the title to the Spanish King. That’s bad ! Now, Lyonnais is definitely cut from us. The only solution is to annex Switzerland…
From there, we will have lots of war against France. Even if Lyon was sometimes conquered, we always managed to keep it and even expand our French possessions. Auvergne first, then Cévennes, then, much latter, Roussillon.

The Russian wars
When we shift alliances after a Russian proposal, wars are fought against Poland-France and against Turkey. We eventually capture Posen from Poland. Turkey also captures Polish provinces that we will conquer later from Turkey.

More than ten wars are fought against Turkey, and at the end, we reconquered Hungary, Croatia, Ruthenia, etc. Ruthenia is a problem because it is the first and only Orthodox province I have. Already managing three religions (catholics, protestants and reformed), I cannot give much tolerance to Ruthenia and it rebels quite often. I therefore chose not to expand against Turkey again, as all bordering provinces are either orthodox or sunni. In subsequent wars against Turkey, I’ll keep fighting their armies trying to quench revolts, therefore permitting Walalchia and Moldavia to free themselves from Ottoman rule at times.
Having reinforced and fortified Parma, I wonder how to make this position an easier one. When our army there receive great leaders (Austria has many) that I cannot use anywhere else, we decide to go for Tuscany and, after it is annexed, for Papal states. Now Central Italy is Austrian.

As Savoy has annexed Milan from Spain, Austria, using yet another war between France-Savoie and Spain succeeds in annexing Savoie (by 1780), eventually reuniting all Austrian territories.

The last war : 1791-1792 drawn in by Russia against Turkey, Sweden and Prussia leads to the annexation of two Prussian provinces and an access to the Baltic Sea.

End of Game : Spain first, Austria second, Russia third.

Without its own COT, Austria has a hard time acquiring monopolies and do not earn much from Trade. So Austria is not so rich, but its armies cost a lot. At the end of the game, I had 420 Taller per year plus 20 per month (660 per year) and 1k inf costs 25, 1k cav 76 and 10 cannons 104.
Austrian armies were never gigantic so I had to use them wisely. At its height, we had circa 160k men in 4 armies. The final onslaught on Savoie cost us over 40k men. A bloodbath.

The only ships we had were caught from Tuscany/Papal states as we annexed them, 12 of them. We never built one.

We had three times a « rush of colonist » event. We managed to implement a full-size city in Antigua that was always attacked, sometimes conquered but never annexed. We got the Papal and Savoian trade Posts in North america but lost them at war. At the end, we installed a level one colony in North Canada.

Screenshot of Europe by 1792 to come tomorrow.
 

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Nice to see that you were successful in expanding Austrian power despite all the wars your allies involved you in.
For religion, couldn't you give very little tolerance to the two forms of Islam and so be able to give more tolerance to Orthodoxy?
 

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Originally posted by Dark Knight:
Nice to see that you were successful in expanding Austrian power despite all the wars your allies involved you in.
For religion, couldn't you give very little tolerance to the two forms of Islam and so be able to give more tolerance to Orthodoxy?
I gave no tolerance to islam as I haven't any muslim province. However, I could just give half max tolerance to Orthodoxy, therefore revolts...
 

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yes, it is rather curious how you managed to survive wars with so many powerful nations without any loses. you said your self that your army was small, your nation was without COT, (which limits income), and that your units were expensive. care to explain?

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I'm looking forward to seeing the screenshots of your empire. they should be interesting.

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Question: You said you were never the leader of an alliance. I don't recall reading in any of the forum threads about how one becomes the leader of an alliance (other than perhaps you were the one declared war against first so you might lead the peace negotiations for your side).
 

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Originally posted by Vurbil:
What level was this on? It seems EU may suffer from the same problem as other strategy games--just too damn easy. You never lost a single war. I have seen very few human defeats in all the AAR's I've seen.
Difficulty hard, AI aggressiv.
After seven months of intensive play, EU becomes easier, that's normal.
To say that I never lose a single war is a shortcut. Let's say that, unlike Sap, I don't post AAR where I get defeated in a few years (and there are some I can tell you).
I have lost battles, have seen provinces conquered but managed peace conditions where I never lost a province, that's quite different. There are war where I did nothing but defend, wait for the attacker to be weary under the walls of my city and then attack them, etc.
Even when drawn into war, you have two months to react, so I waited those two months, letting the ennemies' armies go to the other adversaries of our coalition (eg Russia or Spain) before declaring war myself.
I even dishonnoured an alliance once, after conquering Savoie when I had so few armies left...

All these are tricks for survival and it looks like I now use them efficiently... ;)
 

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Originally posted by Tom:
Question: You said you were never the leader of an alliance. I don't recall reading in any of the forum threads about how one becomes the leader of an alliance (other than perhaps you were the one declared war against first so you might lead the peace negotiations for your side).
The leader is normally the country which initiated the alliance by asking first to be allied. Then, it can become any memeber that declares war/is declared war on.

Peace can be negociated between alliances by the leader only, all others are separate peace.
Example : France+Poland vs Austria+Russia
Russia declares war on Poland, France and Austria join. Russia and Poland are leaders.
If I (Austria) sign peace with France, it's a separate peace, I am still at war with Poland. If I sign peace with Poland, I am no longer at war with both poland and France.
If Russia signs a peace with Poland, both alliances are no longer at war.
Signing separate peaces can lift the burden of having to fight two opponents at the same time...
 

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Austria by 1792 :

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Jutland goes again *sigh*
Okay, Johan, Patric, this really has to be corrected! It seems like the first province Denmark is willing to give is Jutland, that has to be fixed!!! It's quite serious....

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and again, the AI is dealt a serious arse-whooping at the hands of an experienced human...but still...an empire stretching from the Baltic to the Mediterranean? That's sorta...well, horribly expansionist...I'd figure there'd be some kind of continent-wide upheaval...general declarations of war and whatnot....hmmm. Makes me a bit uneasy, but, hey. Well-played.

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Originally posted by King Christian IV:
Jutland goes again *sigh*
Okay, Johan, Patric, this really has to be corrected! It seems like the first province Denmark is willing to give is Jutland, that has to be fixed!!! It's quite serious....
Yeah, it looks like England never conquers, annexes, or merges with Scotland either. Probably too late to do anything about this type of problem though...
 

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I have a few questions. what religion is Austria in this scenario?
and what religion is Spain?
If Spain is Catholic and Austria is Protestant than why in the world would a mighty Catholic nation allow a Protestant nation to attack the territories ruled by the pope?


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Interesting screen shot of the city which shows the city walls/fort with moat. I believe that you can click on some of the city buildings and get some info -- can someone explain a little about that?
 

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'More than ten wars are fought against Turkey, and at the end, we reconquered Hungary, Croatia, Ruthenia, etc. Ruthenia is a problem because it is the first and only Orthodox province I have.'

Good job against a powerful Turkish opponent while keeping an eye on other aggressors.
 
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Originally posted by Mariani:
and again, the AI is dealt a serious arse-whooping at the hands of an experienced human...but still...an empire stretching from the Baltic to the Mediterranean? That's sorta...well, horribly expansionist...I'd figure there'd be some kind of continent-wide upheaval...general declarations of war and whatnot....hmmm. Makes me a bit uneasy, but, hey. Well-played.

Is there not some sort of 'reaction' built in due to your taking of so many Catholic provinces in war (by other Catholic nations, like Spain)? Or did you mitigate that through the diplomacy advantages given to Austria? And yes, good job, expert.
 

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I hear your explanation, but I still think the game is far too easy. The problem is that when it is too easy it hurts the replayability. I will have a lot of fun conquering all of Europe the first time I play, but after that it will get old. You need some kind of a challenge. Regardless of how experienced you are, you shouldn't be able to tear through Europe like a hot knife through butter. You even admitted that there are tricks that allow you to never lose a war even when you are vastly outmatched. It's funny that you offered that as a defense because that's just the sort of stuff that weakens these kinds of games. It's a common flaw.

I have said many times that the biggest problem with strategy games is the weakness of the AI. This can be corrected by playing with other humans, which is why I always seek out opponents in such games. But regardless of that, game designers should strive to make the AI better. The AI needs to beat you when it has superior forces. You shouldn't be able to outsmart it to the point where you never lost a single war (meaning you never had to give up any provinces or money) even though you had almost no army to defend yourself with in some cases (by your own admission).
 

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Originally posted by Hetman Polski:
I have a few questions. what religion is Austria in this scenario?
and what religion is Spain?
If Spain is Catholic and Austria is Protestant than why in the world would a mighty Catholic nation allow a Protestant nation to attack the territories ruled by the pope?



Far be it from me to offer insight into EU, but, to my knowledge, the Hapsburgs were historically fervent Catholics (unlike many of their subject peoples).



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