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And it's Rroma and Rromani. Calling them Roma and Romani with a single R is seen as a slur by most of them as it deliberately confuses them with Romanians thereby undermining their culture.

When I hear "Romani", I immediately hear "Romans", as I understand Latin.

I'm always so disappointed when I realize they're talking about the Rromani...
 

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Yeah... that's not even the only racist comment in the thread so far. It's a shame that with all the racists around, even some of the antiracists are being dumb.
Expect for the cow comment, I don't see any issues. Personally when I was in Rome & Florence last summer I saw many gypsy beggar women using children to hustle tourists. But I know that those women do not represent all gypsy/Romani far from it. And I wont judge a whole group of people on a few bad apples.
What?

Because a word is widely used, that makes it alright? What kind of logic do you people use?

'Gypsy' is very much an offensive word.
You're trying to equate gypsy with a word like negro which at one was okay to say in the 40s-70s but is no longer acceptable. But that thing is many Romani groups have no issue with the term and they call themselves that; it doesn't work, they aren't the same. Franky I think you're derailing the thread.
 
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I think having a flavor text event like finding Greenland is a must if you are going to include India (and maybe some humorous events), but besides that I wouldn't have anything else.
 

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What's with all the shouting and yelling about whats racist or not? You know whats really offensive? Being offended for people who didn't ask you to be the anti-racist brigade and defend them, /that's/ offensive. Now going back to the topic, they might get added in flavor events; but not as a mercenary group because the ERE already has a vassal merc band.
 

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What's with all the shouting and yelling about whats racist or not? You know whats really offensive? Being offended for people who didn't ask you to be the anti-racist brigade and defend them, /that's/ offensive.

Because god forbid any change occurs in society, rather than just the group.

Because it's not society that discriminates against them or anything.

Of course not.
 

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Because god forbid any change occurs in society, rather than just the group.

Because it's not society that discriminates against them or anything.

Of course not.

In case you missed it, some guy who is the son and nephew of REAL gypsies/Romani/whatever in this thread, said he considers the word Gypsy fine and so does his family. If the people supposedly having rascist words thrown at them don't care why should you?
 

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In Ireland (or at least where I am from) Gypsy is traditionally the word for Irish Gypsies, and Roma are well, Roma. Irish Gypsies are completely different ethnically than Roma, they just happened to develop the same lifestyle completely separate from each other.
 

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In case you missed it, some guy who is the son and nephew of REAL gypsies/Romani/whatever in this thread, said he considers the word Gypsy fine and so does his family. If the people supposedly having rascist words thrown at them don't care why should you?

They saw it. They just chose to ignore it because it didn't support their position.
 

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I think having a flavor text event like finding Greenland is a must if you are going to include India (and maybe some humorous events), but besides that I wouldn't have anything else.

I'm pretty sure there was one for Greenland in TOG.
 

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What's with all the shouting and yelling about whats racist or not? You know whats really offensive? Being offended for people who didn't ask you to be the anti-racist brigade and defend them, /that's/ offensive.

Exactly. Even if gypsies are offended by it it's still certainly not "racist" as they are not a separate "race."
 

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You're trying to equate gypsy with a word like negro which at one was okay to say in the 40s-70s but is no longer acceptable. But that thing is many Romani groups have no issue with the term and they call themselves that; it doesn't work, they aren't the same. Franky I think you're derailing the thread.

As there were many african-americans who had no problem with the word 'negro'. Again, opinion will always differ within groups.

Frankly, you can think whatever you want. Contact a mod.


It's wonderful to see the different ways people react to being criticized.
 

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I hate to butt in, but if you feel this passionate about how racist the word "gypsy" is, do everyone else a favour and take it to PM and stop hijacking the thread to discuss a modern issue that is hardly relevant.
 

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Alternatively, it's just nice to see that your first response to being criticized is to try and hurt the person who criticized you.

Considering I never said anything about Fleetwood Mac.

I must've missed your criticism through all the whining. If anyone is this offended by the word "gypsy" I hope that they are sure to spend their time attempting to stop radio stations from playing Fleetwood Mac's song. Eitherwise, they are just blowhard hypocrites with nothing better to do than worry about a computer game.
 
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