Gypsies?

[killerbee256]

With India being added I wonder if there is a way to add Romani into the game? If memories serves they migrated to Europe within ck2's time line. The problem being unlike jews they never reached any form of acclaim in Europe other than being Mercenaries for the Byzantines when they first reached Europe.

 

[brxbrx]

Maybe they'll be present in events? More events about governing your realm would be a plus.

 

[Czert]

well it wil be REALY inteersing how gypsies will be handled in game - well except obnly short time mercenaries in byzantine, they were...well ....there was law which order to hang every gipsy which will try to settle in certain areas..and this law was in force until cca 16 th century or it was even 17th ?

 

[Labrynian Rebel]

Would be cool to have Romani events, especially if the more the Byzantine Empire shrinks the more immigration away from it.

 

[rbc1989]

It would not make any sense to add them except for events. There were no gypsy rulers.

 

[WeissRaben]

Gypsies are going to become the new Jews, aren't they.

 

[killerbee256]

Gypsies are going to become the new Jews, aren't they.

In away I hope, then I can lead a Romani reconquest of their ancestral homeland of India.

 

[Labrynian Rebel]

In away I hope, then I can lead a Romani reconquest of their ancestral homeland of India.

Romani ethnogenesis happened in the Byzantine Empire, they did have have a single identity before leaving India. But heck with it, this is a game where you can install a Norse dynasty in Egypt and English princesses marry Ethiopian dukes, do whatever you want

 

[killerbee256]

Romani ethnogenesis happened in the Byzantine Empire, they did have have a single identity before leaving India. But heck with it, this is a game where you can install a Norse dynasty in Egypt and English princesses marry Ethiopian dukes, do whatever you want

So it would be like an American conquest of the UK or Brazil invading Portugal?

 

[Tuerai]

So it would be like an American conquest of the UK or Brazil invading Portugal?

Welsh reconquest of Britannia

 

[Kansai-kun]

Welsh reconquest of Britannia

Avar reconquest of Persia.

 

[Verenti]

Welsh reconquest of Britannia

That's my current game of CK2

 

[Labrynian Rebel]

So it would be like an American conquest of the UK or Brazil invading Portugal?

Pretty much... actually that sounds like a fun EU IV game idea...

 

[Jess135]

Gypsy is a racial slur, just FYI.

 

[Lord Finnish]

I've had enough of gypsies in real life, please don't bring them to my games as well.

Gypsy is a racial slur, just FYI.

Not necessarily. Some Roma think it's offensive, some don't. To me Gypsy refers to the lifestyle, while Roma is the people. Gypsies are Roma, but Roma are not necessarily gypsies.

 

[Gnorrosch]

It would not make any sense to add them except for events. There were no gypsy rulers.

This is about alternate history after all, who knows - if things had run differently, they might have settled somewhere, like other nomadic people did. After all, they claimt to have a strong claim on Egypt, thus, if there was a successful crusade for Egypt, the Gypsie King should become landed.

 

[Achab]

If you want to be really historically benevolent you can let gypsies into Europe after AD 1350 (AD 1400 be more realistic).

Probably not worth to add feature for so late game time period.

 

[VienLa]

Will I get a tech boost if I'll get a gypsy into my council?

 

[adijarca]

but Roma are not necessarily gypsies.

Rroma = the gipsy tribe/group/clan/whatever who settled in Eastern and central Europe. All Rroma are gypsies. Those from western Europe are called Sinti.

Gypsy is a racial slur, just FYI.

It's not.

And it's Rroma and Rromani. Calling them Roma and Romani with a single R is seen as a slur by most of them as it deliberately confuses them with Romanians thereby undermining their culture.

 

[Czert]

Gypsy is a racial slur, just FYI.

in which way ? in many states it was official desciption of thier race even up to 1970, in some mayby even longer.
It is NOT whites fault that they asociate negative things with gypsys - i think everyone heard about saying he is stealing like gipsy/roma, but i dint heared it about negros/blackmans.
well i hearded you do slave work like negro/blackman/bulgarian/ukraian/etc but never gypsy/roma.