Guardian Awakening after Crisis already solved

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Admiral

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I got an event declaring the arrival of the Unbidden. I look where the portal system is and it's a little bit into the border of one of my neighbors.

Knowing the potential of the threat to snowball out of control, to say nothing of its proximity to me, I immediately drop everything I'm doing at the moment and rush my entire navy toward the system with the portal. Every single ship no exceptions. It was a brutal battle with my 127k fleet up against two defensive stations and 4 57k fleets (they arrived piecemeal and completely lack point defense seeing as the battle report listed no strike craft shot down by them, meaning my fighters and bombers tore them to pieces). I lost literally hundreds of ships but I managed to win anyway and destroy the portal.

Years later, I get an event that the Keepers of Knowledge have awakened, but there was no crisis for them to solve since I got rid of the problem. So I have to ask: what do guardian awakeneded empires do after the threat is gone? I thought that perhaps another crisis had arisen, but I think you can only have one crisis per game.
 

Nirmara

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Fallen empire will awaken if a normal empire get too strong or if an other Fallen empire have been conquered. Honestly, it's surprising they had not awaken earlier considering your fleet power.
 

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This happens to me a lot. The Guardians try to get everyone to sign up into a Federation with them. I did this once in an Iron Man game and it was a big mistake. I was unable to leave the Federation, so I ended up quitting the game.
 

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I suspect it happens if you resolve the crisis too quickly.

The trigger for the protector empire awakening is already pulled when the crisis happens, but they have a delay before their events fire. If you resolve the crisis quickly, they awaken when it's all safely over and they can look good for having done something.
 

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Also, if you wipe out the portal before they establish any anchors, the Unbidden event does not seem to end properly. If you track the anchor event page, it will highlight your capital system (or perhaps the capital system of whoever destroyed the portal - which is always me). This may also cause the strange FE awakening behavior.
 

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This happened to me too with the Prethoryn Swarm.
I waited 30 years to see if the (late) guardian AFE would convert into a different type of AFE, but they didn't so I quit the game...
 

Admiral

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Fallen empire will awaken if a normal empire get too strong or if an other Fallen empire have been conquered. Honestly, it's surprising they had not awaken earlier considering your fleet power.
When my fleet power got to around 75k a FE awakened but I eliminated them completely in two consecutive wars. This was decades ago before the Unbidden event.