GRTV: Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion & something secret...

[riadach]

I know it's selfish, but I would like a bit of Irish flavour. Polygamy, trial marriages, blinding, random defections, hostages, fosterage/education bonuses, the ability to join any factions inside the de jure kingdom of Ireland, regardless of whether or not it is formed, titles claims for all grandsons of the current king, no female inheritance or female line inheritance, funky inauguration ceremonies, interfere with subordinate inheritance (with penalty), depose subordinates to replace them with more favourable candidates of the same dynasty (with penalty) church dynasties, tánaisde where you nominate your heir before death, though it does not guarantee him succession due to (almost) automatic faction fighting, raiding. Would also be interested in an ability to partition titles to keep your vassals to busy fighting themselves to start on you.

 

[Kenthen]

This interview actually convinced me to try out Sunset Invasion, not for the unnanounced stuff but because, yeah, it's silly but I'm sure it will be good to change things up every now, it's pretty inexpensive anyway.
And I guess it helps that I'm not as butthurt right now. lol.

As for the upcoming DLC I'm very curious to see what it's going to be. I'm not going to make any guesses though.
Whatever it is, I just hope we eventually start expanding what we can actually do as our current characters though, that is not just on the strategic layer, if that makes sense.
Additions to character-to-character diplomacy and interactions, whatever that actually means, decisions, more plots. Flavor stuff. Events too but I'm thinking first and foremost of things that you can actually do, rather than wait and hope it happens to you. Things that would especially flesh out the game, at least for me, at times when you either don't want to or aren't looking to conquer the world or perhaps even become king, but it would add a lot either way.

But yeah, now I'm rambling, sorry about that.

 

[ASPGolan]

I know it's selfish, but I would like a bit of Irish flavour. Polygamy, trial marriages, blinding, random defections, hostages, fosterage/education bonuses, the ability to join any factions inside the de jure kingdom of Ireland, regardless of whether or not it is formed, titles claims for all grandsons of the current king, no female inheritance or female line inheritance, funky inauguration ceremonies, interfere with subordinate inheritance (with penalty), depose subordinates to replace them with more favourable candidates of the same dynasty (with penalty) church dynasties, tánaisde where you nominate your heir before death, though it does not guarantee him succession due to (almost) automatic faction fighting, raiding. Would also be interested in an ability to partition titles to keep your vassals to busy fighting themselves to start on you.

That's not selfish. If it is a historical flavour, it might be nice to have. They should include it on their to do lists, maybe it fits into development time.

 

[riadach]

That's not selfish. If it is a historical flavour, it might be nice to have. They should include it on their to do lists, maybe it fits into development time.

But they can't add flavour for every culture, alas.

 

[Folkston]

I know it's selfish, but I would like a bit of Irish flavour. Polygamy, trial marriages, blinding, random defections, hostages, fosterage/education bonuses, the ability to join any factions inside the de jure kingdom of Ireland, regardless of whether or not it is formed, titles claims for all grandsons of the current king, no female inheritance or female line inheritance, funky inauguration ceremonies, interfere with subordinate inheritance (with penalty), depose subordinates to replace them with more favourable candidates of the same dynasty (with penalty) church dynasties, tánaisde where you nominate your heir before death, though it does not guarantee him succession due to (almost) automatic faction fighting, raiding. Would also be interested in an ability to partition titles to keep your vassals to busy fighting themselves to start on you.

That does sound like it would be interesting, I did enjoy reading the PC Gamer "Crusader Kings Chronicle" column about the House of ua Brian where he started with Duke Murchad I of Munster.

Personally I would like a DLC that lets us take control of one of the Holy Orders, like Templar, Hospitallers, or Teutonic Knights. I know succession would be tricky. Holding regions, and vassals would also be different i guess, as the orders weren't really independent nations (except the Teutons) so perhaps the number of troops you can draw from a region depends on the level of prestige/influence you posses in a particular area. In any case, would love to lead one of the Knightly Orders.

While it does sound tricky, it also sounds interesting!

 

[Sir Tornado]

But they can't add flavour for every culture, alas.

Actually, yes they can... this is why DLC system is awesome when compared to expansion system...

 

[riadach]

Actually, yes they can... this is why DLC system is awesome when compared to expansion system...

I meant in regards time restraints.

 

[Sir Tornado]

I meant in regards time restraints.

If they keep making for each culture and people keep buying them, I don't see the problem...

 

[cybrxkhan]

They can add flavor to culture groups for DLC, I think. That's possible. Or at least 'major' cultures - like the Legacy of ROme for the Greeks.

 

[Coniuratos]

They kept making expansions for EU3 for, what, four years? Who's to say we can't look forward to that long a time's worth of DLC for CK2? That's enough to flavorify (enflavorate? flavorize?) at least most cultures.

 

[LordTempest]

It will be Pagans, no question. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

 

[stormblind]

It will be Pagans, no question. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

I hope so. Until then, my dream of uniting the Suomenesko's of Finland/Northern Russia will remain constrained to single player with console cheat to make myself "finnish_pagan"

 

[Kagernaut]

I hope so. Until then, my dream of uniting the Suomenesko's of Finland/Northern Russia will remain constrained to single player with console cheat to make myself "finnish_pagan"

It will probably be pagans. I would be ok with that, it might even be fun if there was enough flavor. But I hope they move the games timefram back 100 to 500 years (more time the better). It would make starting out as say, a one province count or something even more interesting than it already is.

I personaly don't get why anyone would want to play a republic though. Theres no dynasty to worry about, or if there is it will be ridiculously difficult to keep it succeeding the throne/expesnive chair/whatever. Plus it would be like a kingdom....but more...weird?

It would be nice if there was a DLC that made it more rewarding to play as a vassal. Like, more events or appointed positions to vie for. Things like that.

 

[Me_]

I just had a revelation: this new playable thing may not be Pagans/Republics/Theocracies/Barons but Holy Orders.

 

[Stauffenberg13]

I just had a revelation: this new playable thing may not be Pagans/Republics/Theocracies/Barons but Holy Orders.

He said it is something the fans have requested quite a lot. I don't think there is anything that has been requested more frequently than playable pagans.

 

[Me_]

He said it is something the fans have requested quite a lot. I don't think there is anything that has been requested more frequently than playable pagans.

They were convinced that Sunset Invation will at worst be ignored and did not expect any negative feedback. I doubt their ability to asses what is and what isn't requested. Not to mention that "frequently" is not the same as "most frequently".

 

[Stauffenberg13]

They were convinced that Sunset Invation will at worst be ignored and did not expect any negative feedback. I doubt their ability to asses what is and what isn't requested. Not to mention that "frequently" is not the same as "most frequently".

I'm sure they follow their own forums. You're comparing predicting what may happen to talking about what has happened. And yes, he didn't say "most frequently requested," but it would still have to be something that is actually frequently requested to be consistent with that hint. Also, it's supposed to be something that warrants a DLC as big as, or larger than, SOI.


Face it, it's playable pagans. All the hints dropped in the interview point clearly in that direction. And it's also the most logical thing to add. It's strange enough that they've waited to the fourth DLC for it. It wouldn't make any sense if it weren't the pagans this time either.

 

[Sir Tornado]

Face it, it's playable pagans. All the hints dropped in the interview point clearly in that direction. And it's also the most logical thing to add. It's strange enough that they've waited to the fourth DLC for it. It wouldn't make any sense if it weren't the pagans this time either.

It is the third DLC, not the fourth. SSI isn't a major DLC according to PDS. And I don't see why it is strange. The first one had to be Muslims. The second one had to be Byzantine given ERE has more fans in these forums than any other nation/kingdom/empire throughout history...

 

[Gunnarr]

I just had a revelation: this new playable thing may not be Pagans/Republics/Theocracies/Barons but Holy Orders.

Holy orders... okay, that is... three titles. Wow, that is HUGE DLC and is as big as sword of islam!!!

please use logic

 

[Alexander Seil]

They were convinced that Sunset Invation will at worst be ignored and did not expect any negative feedback.

Well, as would most rational people in their place.