I'm thinking of playing Grenada, since, as the only latin muslim nation, it seems like it has the potential for a bit of fun, trying to establish the kingdom of the three faiths. Any advice?
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As insightful as that is, I'd prefer something more specific.Originally posted by Castelion
Take out Castile ASAP
I'm playing Granada now... that is about the most specific advice I could offer you as well. Castile will probably attack on the second day of the game - try to avoid fighting them. Split your army up to cut their supply while they're besieging Sierra Nevada, wait for the attrition to get them, etc. etc.
After annexing Castile and Portugal (1480 or so) I've been colonizing South America and Indonesia thanks to Portuguese maps, and nibbling at Aragon.
After annexing Castile and Portugal (1480 or so) I've been colonizing South America and Indonesia thanks to Portuguese maps, and nibbling at Aragon.
Lol. You say that as if it is nothing. Is it hard dealing with revolts and a different religion/culture over conquered provinces like 3 or 4 times you size?
No revolts (their capitals are both core provinces ), and Granada has Iberian culture. With only two religions to worry about, there won't be revolts from that. Surviving the first war and gaining a province or two is the key - after that, Granada can get very strong very fast.
), and Granada has Iberian culture. With only two religions to worry about, there won't be revolts from that. Surviving the first war and gaining a province or two is the key - after that, Granada can get very strong very fast.
Originally posted by Carligula
No revolts (their capitals are both core provinces
So true they got a very good setup, growth wise. You only need to win that first war in a big way. When I played them I got 4 provinces of Castile in war 1 after that things were a lot easier. And the Mammeluks are very close and easy to trash so getting that Alexandrie CoT is easy and very profitable with both correct culture as religion.
I know....
I played Byzantium once too ( actually 3 or 4 times but only one surviving the first couple of years...
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Granada IS fun. Cheated my hot crescent buns off the first time, but there's no fun in that. Second try, got my turban kicked all over southern Iberia (Aragon, Castile, and Portugal all ganged up - at least Fez and Algiers tried to help...). Now I'm just focusing on getting through that first war...
Oh, to reunite the Caliphate! Planning on an AAR when/if I survive past 1440...
Oh, to reunite the Caliphate! Planning on an AAR when/if I survive past 1440...
With Byzantium you get some breathing room, not so with Granada. I won two initial crucial wars, but I loaded twice to alter the scales. I'm gonna do it right next time.
btw it was very funny to see in early 1600 the kingdom of Granada to reappear as catholic kingdom spain was ripped apart by revolts, catalanya (3 provinces) and even aragon (1 province, but didn't last long) declared independence
Letharion, Founder of Venetian-Indonesia
spain was ripped apart by revolts, catalanya (3 provinces) and even aragon (1 province, but didn't last long) declared independenceLetharion, Founder of Venetian-Indonesia
You will be dowed nearly continously for the first 50 years. Use those wars and expand over the peninsula. Take Toledo for fast money. When it becomes more peaceful, wait for the christians to fight among themselves. They always do and most of the time you have a casus belli on some of them. Just keep one or two armys at hand, then use their internal disorders and expand some more. Do so, until you have reached your desired size.
It's fun to play, though there are no leaders and beyond 1492 even no new monarchs.
Make Algier and Morocco your friends, they will be helpful in fighting Portugal who tends to expand in North Africa.
It's fun to play, though there are no leaders and beyond 1492 even no new monarchs.
Make Algier and Morocco your friends, they will be helpful in fighting Portugal who tends to expand in North Africa.
You can potentially be a really big daddy with Granada, if you take care of Castile and Portugal.
Alright, I beat them up pretty well and occupied all their possesions in the peninsula... except... they managed to build a city out of the canary islands and instantly started giving me crap deals... AARRGGGHH! I really, really, really hate Castile.