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Hello.

First off i just want to say the reason i looked into this was i saw the natural resources map mode for a couple of seconds in the Hungary campaign and i saw that there was 10 aluminium in Jutland, Denmark.
Now since this is country which i was born and live in i wanted to know what Denmark actually exported during WW2 and i found alot of about this thing called Cryolite.
I don't know if this is in the game already as i have not seen a resource map mode of Greenland.

*text written like this is directly copied as i don't know how to make some symbols or i feel this explains it better than i could or it is about stuff that i just don't know enough about.

Now what is Cryolite? Cryolite, also known as sodium hexafluoroaluminate, is a colourless compound forming cube-like crystals consisting of aluminium 3+ cations binding six fluoride F- anions, forming octahedral like AlF63-, with smaller sodium + ions to balance the charge. It is also a very rare mineral that in the only large quantity have been found on Greenland in the Iviguut mine.

More importantly for us to know is that Cryolite is used to create aluminium, it itself actually contains aluminium, but not very much only around 10-15% where as the much more commonly used mineral used to create aluminium Bauxite contains around 50% and is very common around the world, the whole reason this mineral was so sort after was that to lure the metal out of the Bauxite on an industrial scale. Three electrons need to be added to the Al3+ ions to make them neutral and metallic, and although it was recognised early on that the way to do this was to pass an electric current through a solution of the ions - what we call electrolysis - it took some 50 years of experimenting until this was achieved.
The problem is that you cannot electrolyse aluminium in water, as the electrons would combine with H+ ions, producing hydrogen gas. If we circumvent the problem by melting aluminium oxide directly, the very high melting point, 2072°C, turns out to be prohibitively expensive. This is where Cryolite comes in. In 1886, both Charles Hall in Ohio, US, and Paul Héroult in Normandy, France, discovered that molten cryolite, with the moderate melting temperature of only 1012°C, easily dissolves aluminium oxide.


This made mass production of aluminium immensly cheaper than it had been previously and when the war broke out it become even more valuble resource in the construction of airplanes for the war effort. Now when Denmark was occupied in 1940 by Germany, it was a scary moment for Britain and Canada as to what would happen the the vital Cryolite, especially since that the Canadian aluminium manufacturer Alcan imported 3500 tons alone anually, not even mentioning what the US imported.
There was even planned a smaller invasion from Canada's side to secure the mine which was backed up by Britain since Denmark was occupied by Germany it was technically enemy territoy, but when the US finally joined the war a protectorate was established over Greenland by them.

When the mine had been emptied in 1987 where it had been replaced by a synthetic substitute, there had been mined over 4 million tons through out the mine's lifetime.

And finally to the actual suggestion, i think that how important this resource is should be represented in game on Greenland with a sizable deposit of the Aluminum resource, i know it wasn't processed there but it was where it was mined and exported from, it would also give Greenland alot of the strategic importance it had during WW2 and since it will be under Denmark it can actualy represent the US', Canada's, Britain's etc.valuable importing of the aluminium and also put them in the question of when Denmark most likely will fall to Germany, what to do to retain the resource and the fear of having it fall into enemy hands.


That is all i had to say, i hope it isn't too much reading and i am sorry for any grammatical or spelling mistakes :)
 
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Same problem exists in the pacific region, there is almost no aluminium to be found on the map anywhere.

There were considerable amounts mined by china north of Nanjing and taken over by Japan. Yet there are zero Alu resources.

Australia imported almost all of its aluminium demands from SEAsia ( Singapore / Indonesia / Malaysia ) until after the loss of SEA to Japan ( when they started to exploit their own bauxite deposits). Yet there a only a few units of alu in the whole region.
 
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I do really hope they implement more of these kind of very strategically areas around the world where there was a large amount of one reasource that some countries ended up relying on, we already have the Romanian oil that Germany ended up really relying on the oil comming from and the rubber from from the Malay archpelago region which was important to both the British, Dutch and Japanese.
 

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As for less well know resources, I recently discovered that Dutch western colonies also had some.

Dutch Guiana (Suriname) in South America had bauxite mines and the islands of Aruba & Curaçao in the Caribbean had sizeable oil refineries.

These territories where protected by the US and the UK during the war to safeguard their useful resources.
 

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I actually had to look this up... i know greenland is very rich of minerals and ore, but i had no idea it were mined that early due to the harsh conditions... but seems greenland should have some resources, as there were actually some rather interesting politcal squabel about it, ewen so presdient of the USA actually took personal interest to keep it "neutral" and out of bristish-canadian, and or norweigian hands...

-"In 1940, the chief concern of all interested parties was to secure the strategically important supply of cryolite from the mine at Ivigtut. Cryolite was a key component used in the production of aluminum. Due to diplomatic considerations, no U.S. soldiers could be used to protect the mines so the U.S. State Department recruited fifteen Coast Guardsmen who were voluntarily discharged and in turn hired by the mine as guards. Three-inch naval deck guns were supplied by Campbell and the recently arrivedUSCGC Northland along with eight machine guns, fifty rifles, and thousands of rounds of ammunition.[10] In this way the United States maintained neutrality and still preempted British-Canadian plans for the island.

Brun decided that Greenland should untertake its own measures to ensure its sovereignty. He made an appeal to the Greenland's guides and hunters to join an elite unit tasked with patrolling the most remote areas of the colony.[9] Using the rifles left by the Americans, he directed the creation of what became the Sirius Sledge Patrol. The 15 man volunteer team was made up of nativeInuit, Danish colonists, and Norwegian expatriates.[3]"

-"President Franklin D. Roosevelt took a strong personal interest in Greenland's fate. On 9 April 1941, the anniversary of the German occupation, the Danish envoy Kauffmann, against the instructions of his government, signed an executive agreement with Secretary of StateCordell Hull, allowing the presence of American troops and making Greenland a de facto U.S. protectorate. The cryolite mine in Ivigtut was a unique asset that made it possible for Greenland to manage fairly well economically during the war."
 
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