Hello!
First of all, i will introduce myself. My name is Lukas, and i'm a big fan of HOI2. I'm doing this post because i have noticed a LOT of mistakes when it comes to Greece in HOI2. Although i live in sweden now, i've grown up in athens and i've studied greek ww2 history to some extend in university level.
First of all i'll begin with a request: Can u release a patch where it will be actually possible to play greece? It would be really nice, as a country for expert players, since IRL Greece managed to hold the italian offensive for half a year (in game terms, it takes perhaps 2 weeks for italy to annex greece). Plus there are many interesting choices that a player can make, i.e. on october 28 of 1940 the italian ambassador, visited dictator Metaxas and demanded military access. So Metaxas was given the choice of fighting for or against the axis. But hey, this is just a request. The varius mistakes are more important!
so here we go:
1. First mistake. And biggest. Eleftherios Venizelos as Chief of air force in 1938? The dude died in 1936. Plus he was NOT EVER going to be a part of that goverment, due to big ideological differences. To understand how outragously absurd this sounds i'll say this: Saying that El. Venizelos was the chief of the greek airforce in 1936 sounds like saying "richard nixon was the chief of the US airforce under president clinton". No, i'm not excagerating, it sounds THAT absurd. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleftherios_Venizelos )
2. Second mistake. Perhaps bigger then the first one. Ioanis Metaxas a paternal autocrat?? Hm. NO. In fact metaxas after his coup in 1936 managed to form a centralised national socialist goverment. There has been a lot of discussion in greece about weather the metaxas regime was a nazi or a fascist one, and i don't know the answer, but i certainly know that he was NOWAY a paternal autocrat. He was a original nazi, pure admirer of the third reich and would LOVE to see greece siding with the axis in WW2, which would probably be the case, had Musolini not decide to attack greece without Hitler's approval. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fascism )
3. Third mistake. Also huge in game terms if you're playing Italy. Greek geography and greek armed forces. Ioannina (the northwestern part of greece, wich has a border with albania) is a MOUNTAIN! A tall one! Plus, the greek armed forces had built good fortifications, and had grown much stronger after metaxas took power in 1936. In the game, 9 out of 10 times italy will conquer greece in 2-4 weeks. IRL Italy failed to advance one inch into greece, for half a year. Greece only fell in 1941 after the german intervention. So my suggestion is this: Make ioannina a mountain, put some fortifications in there and improve the greek military a little bit. Then there will be a chance that things will go historically accurately. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Italian_War )
Now i can go into much more detail if you like. But i'd just figure to start by stating the most important errors
Cheers!
First of all, i will introduce myself. My name is Lukas, and i'm a big fan of HOI2. I'm doing this post because i have noticed a LOT of mistakes when it comes to Greece in HOI2. Although i live in sweden now, i've grown up in athens and i've studied greek ww2 history to some extend in university level.
First of all i'll begin with a request: Can u release a patch where it will be actually possible to play greece? It would be really nice, as a country for expert players, since IRL Greece managed to hold the italian offensive for half a year (in game terms, it takes perhaps 2 weeks for italy to annex greece). Plus there are many interesting choices that a player can make, i.e. on october 28 of 1940 the italian ambassador, visited dictator Metaxas and demanded military access. So Metaxas was given the choice of fighting for or against the axis. But hey, this is just a request. The varius mistakes are more important!
so here we go:
1. First mistake. And biggest. Eleftherios Venizelos as Chief of air force in 1938? The dude died in 1936. Plus he was NOT EVER going to be a part of that goverment, due to big ideological differences. To understand how outragously absurd this sounds i'll say this: Saying that El. Venizelos was the chief of the greek airforce in 1936 sounds like saying "richard nixon was the chief of the US airforce under president clinton". No, i'm not excagerating, it sounds THAT absurd. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleftherios_Venizelos )
2. Second mistake. Perhaps bigger then the first one. Ioanis Metaxas a paternal autocrat?? Hm. NO. In fact metaxas after his coup in 1936 managed to form a centralised national socialist goverment. There has been a lot of discussion in greece about weather the metaxas regime was a nazi or a fascist one, and i don't know the answer, but i certainly know that he was NOWAY a paternal autocrat. He was a original nazi, pure admirer of the third reich and would LOVE to see greece siding with the axis in WW2, which would probably be the case, had Musolini not decide to attack greece without Hitler's approval. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fascism )
3. Third mistake. Also huge in game terms if you're playing Italy. Greek geography and greek armed forces. Ioannina (the northwestern part of greece, wich has a border with albania) is a MOUNTAIN! A tall one! Plus, the greek armed forces had built good fortifications, and had grown much stronger after metaxas took power in 1936. In the game, 9 out of 10 times italy will conquer greece in 2-4 weeks. IRL Italy failed to advance one inch into greece, for half a year. Greece only fell in 1941 after the german intervention. So my suggestion is this: Make ioannina a mountain, put some fortifications in there and improve the greek military a little bit. Then there will be a chance that things will go historically accurately. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Italian_War )
Now i can go into much more detail if you like. But i'd just figure to start by stating the most important errors
Cheers!
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