Great Power: what is the criteria?

[rebelito]

I searched for an answer to no avail. What is the criteria that defines which country is a great power? Is there any indication in the UI that marks countries as GPs?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Murmeldjuret]

I think it is tied to how much score you get each month, but other factors might weigh in as well.

 

[rebelito]

So...? Nobody knows????

 

[TheMeInTeam]

So...? Nobody knows????

Correct. Only the devs know precisely. All we have are educated guesses, such as monthly score rate.

 

[rebelito]

Correct. Only the devs know precisely. All we have are educated guesses, such as monthly score rate.

OK, I see. It's an experiment then, obviously in advance of WoN... would be nice to see a dev giving some details as to where the GP criteria stands now.

I wish we had the dll source ala civ so we can dig in for our answers... (and some more... alterations).

 

[Golladan]

Is there any indication in the UI that marks countries as GPs?

Only if you're a great power, you'll have a -25 Competing Great Power relation malus with other great powers.

The great powers at game start are (in no particular order):
1) Timurids
2) Ottomans
3) France
4) England
5) Burgundy
6) Castile
7) Austria
8) Ming
9) Lithuania
10) The Mamluks

The Mamluks and Qara Qoyunlu are close enough in whatever defines a great power that they tend to alternate.

 

[rebelito]

Only if you're a great power, you'll have a -25 Competing Great Power relation malus with other great powers.

Yes, I saw that indirect UI element.. I was referring to a more visible one, such as an icon, or similar. None, obviously.

 

[Murmeldjuret]

Yes, I saw that indirect UI element.. I was referring to a more visible one, such as an icon, or similar. None, obviously.

Nope, they added it in a patch a while back (the -25 modifier, which was a good addition imo), but now they made alliances much harder, especially if something like France snowballs and the rest of Europe won't ally to stop that monster since they have "enough allies". Hoepfully they will improve the feature in further patches.

 

[Viperswhip]

In my Gelre game I was allied to Denmark and Austria originally, and that counted as one great power, France came and offered me an alliance so that was 2. Then Denmark inherited Norway and after some auto call ally fiasco I've written about elsewhere I couldn't get France back because Denmark had become a major power and my people's view of France was too low.

 

[SpySappinMyUser]

I believe that it's a combination of the score you earn per month in the top right, the amount of troops you have (army and navy), the amount of allies, etc. But tbh I don't think anyone knows precisely what is required to be a great power in EUIV. You'll know if you are a GP if other GPs consider you a "Competing Great Power -25".