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Coup? No way, the Norwegian fools shall suffer!!!


Take on Sweden instead Myth :cool: , judging by their last 150 years of military history they should be easy targets :p

If your still not convinced, then listen to this song: LOL :D
 

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Bypass Central Europe and take out Spain by an amphibious invasion. That way you can easily sandwich the Allies in the future.

P.S. But yes! *coughs* AFGHANISTAN *coughs* TURKEY *coughs* AND NORWAY...
 

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No Myth! Not Turkey, Leave the poor little country alone :<.
I know China ain't a democracy at the moment, but my vote's for Turkey. Running the Ukraine isn't much good if they can just cut off the Bosporus. Besides, give New Rome to a Romanov & he'll be the most loyal puppet you've ever imagined.
much as I tormented discomb over msn...why turkey? ;)

*cough* Afghanistan.
why afghanistan? ;)

so maybe everyone else already knows this - but when you say "Italy" beat the Socialists, does that mean it's a non-socialist democracy? or that the fascists-less-Mussolini are still in control?
Italy gets its government changed via the surrender event--its now market liberal iirc. the Italian Socialist Republic is National Socialist

Not that it matters too much. In an AAR full of amusing moments, one of the highlights is going to be when the Vichyssois move on from marching triumphantly through Paris & Rennes to "liberating" Rome while the American GIs wave along with their girlfriends
no doubt :D

He may also have invaded Greece, Finland or Lithuania, or the sickly green pancreas of Europe. My vote is with the Czech.
again, why any of them? ;)

and continie to ignore norway? how dare they choose the colors of the great Li Jishen. They must be brought down!
aye, strategic considerations outweigh the minor offense of using the Imperial Colors

no way! bastion of democracy in Europe shall never fall! Isn´t it better to coup it by cheap t-shirts and shoes?
cheat t-shirts and shoes, yet my tanks are hugely expensive! :mad:

Coup? No way, the Norwegian fools shall suffer!!!
Mwuahahaha! (check my avatar)
in time...:p

I would not say you were working for peace since you had war with everyone possible (allmost).
at war with everyone? I was at war with the two outcast alliances of teh world--the Axis and the Comintern. together they didn't even represent ten nations

I knew our sly references to economics would finally trigger another war =)
that, or the fact that I'm a warmonger ;)

Take on Sweden instead Myth , judging by their last 150 years of military history they should be easy targets

If your still not convinced, then listen to this song: LOL
haha :D

Bypass Central Europe and take out Spain by an amphibious invasion. That way you can easily sandwich the Allies in the future.

P.S. But yes! *coughs* AFGHANISTAN *coughs* TURKEY *coughs* AND NORWAY...
everything in its own time...:p
 

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Li Jishen knew that despite all the possible distractions that faced him, he had to keep a steady course. War with the imperialist West was inevitable, he could see it on the horizon already. There were many distractions that faced the mighty enterprise—Lithuania, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Turkey. Strategically, these countries were worth little or nothing in Li Jishen’s estimation. The Americans, despite Li Jishen’s speech of peace at the end of January, were still suspicious. The Chinese could not afford to take many steps—those they did would have to thus be deliberate.

Thus, he declared war on Afghanistan and two Chinese armies, poised on the Sino-Afghan border, flooded across. The strategic value of Afghanistan was obvious. It lengthened the already long Sino-British border in Southeast Asia and the Middle East. More importantly, it allowed not only for a quick thrust toward the Persian Gulf to divide the British theater in two, but allowed for other axes of advance into both India and Persia.

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War against Afghanistan!

Eighteen well trained and modern infantry divisions smashed into the frontier defenses, manned by only a single full infantry division and supported by a cavalry division and three local militia divisions. The Afghans never stood a chance and were soon routed back toward Kabul.

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The projected, and simple, plan for the conquest of Afghanistan.

Little else occurred through the month, the West did not denounce China for her attack and China for her part remained largely at peace, save for the two warring armies. By the end of the month, Feyzabad, China’s claim on Afghanistan, had been conquered but the drive to Kabul blunted by Li Jishen’s orders—the Afghans had marched into the undefended Kazakh province of Stalinabad and Li Jishen did not wish to already endanger one of his newest puppets.

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The front lines at the end of March.

The French Civil War, meanwhile, was still raging. The Vichy French had occupied most of metropolitan France and about half of Belgium. The Free French, however, had landed at Bordeaux and were fighting their way inland. Though it remained to be seen whether the Vichy or the Free French would triumph in the end, the mere prospect of continued chaos in Western Europe was enough to provoke Li Jishen to smile with satisfaction. More eyes focusing on France meant, of course, that there were fewer looking toward China.

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The front lines of the French Civil War by the end of March.
 

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The french can´t lose when they are figthing themselves :D , or can they..... :p
 

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That plan of attack on Afghanistan - nice and simple. A clearly brilliant strategic concept from the mastermind that is Li Jishen ;)
 

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.pfft.

Something wrong with a game's mechanics when you can just occupy Afghanistan and have that be the end of the trouble you're in. :)

Especially doing everything by land with no airforce to speak of...

j.
 

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Who IS at war with Vichy? Are the Brits?
 

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What's your belligerence? How likely is it that the Allies will DOW you?
 

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Well at least you won't face the problems the Soviets faced in Afghanistan.

In all of real history, no single nation has ever conquered Afghanistan.
 

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The french can´t lose when they are figthing themselves , or can they.....
we shall see...:p

That plan of attack on Afghanistan - nice and simple. A clearly brilliant strategic concept from the mastermind that is Li Jishen
yep ;)
though to be fair, it'd be pretty challenging to come up with a more complex plan in such a country :p

.pfft.

Something wrong with a game's mechanics when you can just occupy Afghanistan and have that be the end of the trouble you're in.

Especially doing everything by land with no airforce to speak of...
oh no, Afghanistan is merely the first step! :p
and besides, having an air force is overrated. especially when your opponent doesn't use his

Well at least you won't face the problems the Soviets faced in Afghanistan.
presumably :p

Who IS at war with Vichy? Are the Brits?
all the Allied powers except the USA (thus, France, Britain and its Commonwealth, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Liberia, Philippines)

What's your belligerence? How likely is it that the Allies will DOW you?
well, with my release of all those puppets its dropped down to ~100. dunno how likely it is, but the USa at the moment has a belligerence of 160+ so it'd be a bit hypocritical of them, though I don't think the game engine takes such things into account ;)

In all of real history, no single nation has ever conquered Afghanistan.
well...the Mongols I think, but they weren't a nation as such :p

You could ally vichy. So you wont need to make a puppet on this teritory.
Vichy is at war with all the Allies except the States. why would I want war with that bloc of countries at this time?
 

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Li Jishen sat still, simply staring at the map of the world laid out in front of him. China was slowly advancing in Afghanistan, and soon Li Jishen would put into effect the second part of the Chinese campaign to place itself in a better strategic position against the western imperialists. It was to be a risky move, but a necessary one.

However, the move was yet to come. The month mainly centered around Afghanistan again, and the slow progress being made there. General Golpurchin attacked toward Stalinabad, which was in Afghan hands, and quickly routed the three divisions holding the city. He did not bother marching into Stalinabad, however, as it was immaterial to the final conquest of Afghanistan; he was merely required to preclude any further Afghan advance.

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The attack on Stalinabad.

The month also saw the first divisions being raised by the Russian puppets states transferred to Chinese control, though in truth Li Jishen did not want them directly incorporated into the Chinese army as such. The first expeditionary force was a two-division corps under command of Lieutenant General Kuzmenko of the Transural Kingdom. His force was quickly followed by the Kazakh Third Rifle Division under Major General Bohnstedt and the First Russian Army under General Belov I.P.

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The first puppet Russian successor state expeditionary force.

In Afghanistan, Kabul was attacked and the defenders quickly routed in the series of battles as soldiers withdrawing from Stalinabad and Feyzabad withdrew into the city. None of these forces had the capability of halting the Chinese, however.

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The attack in Kabul.

At about the same time, the Afghans put out their first peace proposal to Guilin. It was, of course, wholly unacceptable; the Afghans only offered up Feyzabad. If China had desired merely this town, their diplomatic strength would have ensured a fairly smooth, and peaceful, transfer to the Chinese Empire. However, Feyzabad did not fulfill the strategic hopes Li Jishen had for Afghanistan. The war continued.

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The first Afghan peace offer.

In France meanwhile, the civil war continued to rage. Though the Vichy made slight gains against the Italians and pushed northward into the Netherlands, their rear appeared greatly undefended as the Free French seemed to be roaming around at will, and had cut the Vichy holdings in two.

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The French Civil War continuing on.

Li Jishen smiled tightly. France had the eyes of the world on her, leaving China to work her will mostly unnoticed. This pleased Li Jishen, as he knew the Americans were still edgy and had even gone as far as to provide slight garrisons to every town on the western side of the Sino-American border.
 

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Part of me hopes Vichy wins, because that would be more interesting.

By the way, we did some research. The Mongols did indeed conquer Afghanistan. They more or less came and killed everyone, as the Afghan officials insulted them by returning the heads of the Mongol embassadors. They later settled there and became muslim themselves. Afghanistan was also fully incorporated into Tamerlane's empire, naturally due to the conquests of Ghengis Khan.

Georgia, on the other hand, was never fully conquered by the Mongols.
 

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Part of me hopes Vichy wins, because that would be more interesting.

No matter which French nation loses, China wins :rofl:
 

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Aren't some of the Vichy VPs outside of western Europe? I guess Free France has access to ships, otherwise they would not have been able to launch an amphibious landing to take France back. Anyway, as noted above, it's all good for the Dragon! :D
 

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Nice to see Vichy have its hour of glory, but it shall not last.