Graphics/Screen resolution info, troubleshooting, etc.

[King]

There is no graphics scaling in the demo (to turn down graphics effects for lower-end pcs). Will there be these options in the final version? Because frankly, the game is quite unplayable like this. Really sad, as it looks exquisite! Great job paradox.

I am afraid I just don't know, and there is no about to ask. I'll see if I can find out tomorrow.

 

[Mr. G]

Just to ask have you tried downloading again? It could just simply be a corrupted download.

Well, the files lies in the game directory, and are not corrupt (may be opened).

 

[kullenius]

I have the same Intel GMA 950 chipset i my Apple Macbook and I can run the game if I use 3DAnalyzer and emulate hardware T&L support. (Intel GMA 950 does NOT support hardware T&L :wacko: ) The game runs really smooth (with shadows diabled), but the entire landmass seems to me "submerged" in water, as some other users previously has reported.

I hope you fix this King, EUIII seems to rock just as hard as Doomsday did/does!

Thank you fokkerMcFarley. It did work once I installed and put the settings as you said. Sadly though I also got the water effect which ruins the parade - my eyes goes :wacko: after a few minutes

 

[unmerged(46069)]

Just to ask have you tried downloading again? It could just simply be a corrupted download.

I haven't heard anyone so far who got the game working by re-downloading the demo. What are the chances that a corrupt file is downloaded and unrared without the downloading software or winrar to detect this corruption?

The question I want to ask is, will we have the same performance in the final version as in the demo? Or will the final version be better tuned to different configurations? Need to know, because if not, then I probably won't buy the game as in its current state, its unplayable.

PC configuration:
P 4 2.4GHz
1GB DDR
Geforce FX5200 256MB

 

[Evie HJ]

I think I know what the problem is here. Your computer says that your Graphics card has 256 MB of memory. However, to the best of my knowledge, the X550 is either a 128Mb or (and I think your case probably) a 64MB. Then the graphics card uses a pretty neat trick to steal some of your on board RAM to increase its share of the RAM. This fools your computer but not EU3. We are currently working on a fix/work around for this problem.

This is good to know, as I'm perfectly aware this is the problem with my card too (X1300 HyperMemory). Which is a bit galling as I have RAM to spare on this machine (and can upgrade it easily), but can't really change the video card.

Just wanted to let out a huge preemptive THANK YOU to everyone at Paradox who's working hard on fixing this. It's highly apreciated.

 

[Sleepyhead]

I am afraid not. Not to bore you with the technical details the GeForce4 is simply to old I am afriad.

Oh okey

Will it be possible with the "fix" that's being created or do I have to get a completely new card?

 

[King]

Well, the files lies in the game directory, and are not corrupt (may be opened).

Well I am stumped then. I'll need to look at this in the morning.

 

[King]

Oh okey

Will it be possible with the "fix" that's being created or do I have to get a completely new card?

I seriously doubt that there will be a fix. So if you want to play EU3 we recommend you buy a new card.

 

[unmerged(6777)]

Oh okey

Will it be possible with the "fix" that's being created or do I have to get a completely new card?

I doubt it. Your card (see here for a run down) only supports the 8.1 library which doesn't have PS2.0 support (PS2.0 started with Dx9.0) so I'm 99.999999% sure that the possible fix won't help you.

The 2 main issues are:

1. EU3 looks for 128MB V-RAM and rejects you if you don't have it, even if the card is designed to use regular system RAM for graphics. The workaround would be to bypass this test (with suitable caveat emptor that your performance could suffer greatly so don't complain if this happens) and allow the game to launch.

2. EU3 also looks for PS2.0 support (library) on the card and rejects you if it doesn't find it. The isn't an easy fix for this because EU3 hasn't been coded to be able to switch to the old 8.x libraries (not even sure if some necessary things could be done with those libraries anyway) so it would require pretty much re-coding the entire graphic component of the game again (in duplicate). Mega-companies have the resources to undertake such things, but that's extremely labour-intensive (all assuming it could be done in the first place).

As you'll see from that link, every nVidia card since March 2003 (4 years ago) supports the 9.0 libraries so you can probably pick up a very cheap card made after that date that would allow the game to work (though it seems performance from the 5x series isn't all that spectacular). A late 6x or early 7x card shouldn't be particularly expensive provided you have a slot that accommodates it. If you've got a PCI-e slot (somewhat doubtful if your motherboard is as old as your graphics card) then go that route. If not, you should have an AGP slot (since I think that's the spec you gave King) so get an AGP version.

(Note that I'm not specifically favouring nVidia here...you could go the ATI route as well and the dates are essentially identical. Personally I'd avoid Intel and go for the most recent nVidia or ATI card that your budget allows.)

 

[Mr. G]

Well I am stumped then. I'll need to look at this in the morning.

Ok. God night then
(WOW, support at 20:30!!!!! That's what I call service! )

 

[unmerged(50930)]

EMERGENCY - HELP

hey all, I am having a difficulties that are litterally eating away at me.

I have downloaded the demo. I have installed, bam, bam, bam. everything well on that department. When I have tried to play it, a pop up came that said could create graphics or something ( look at the below screnie ) ... I have posted a question about and after a little while, I said to myself, the file must have been corrupted so I downloaded it from another source, gamershell. The Installation proces again went fine and things looked until i tried to run it, the same pop up came and this time, i think something is wrong. but I dont know.

as you can see from this screnie, I play other games that demand more than the EU3 demands and I really cant seem why it wont even open. what is at issue?

a screenie of the proplem, please help, I am desperate for trying EU3.

 

[Sleepyhead]

I doubt it. Your card (see here for a run down) only supports the 8.1 library which doesn't have PS2.0 support (PS2.0 started with Dx9.0) so I'm 99.999999% sure that the possible fix won't help you.

The 2 main issues are:

1. EU3 looks for 128MB V-RAM and rejects you if you don't have it, even if the card is designed to use regular system RAM for graphics. The workaround would be to bypass this test (with suitable caveat emptor that your performance could suffer greatly so don't complain if this happens) and allow the game to launch.

2. EU3 also looks for PS2.0 support (library) on the card and rejects you if it doesn't find it. The isn't an easy fix for this because EU3 hasn't been coded to be able to switch to the old 8.x libraries (not even sure if some necessary things could be done with those libraries anyway) so it would require pretty much re-coding the entire graphic component of the game again (in duplicate). Mega-companies have the resources to undertake such things, but that's extremely labour-intensive (all assuming it could be done in the first place).

As you'll see from that link, every nVidia card since March 2003 (4 years ago) supports the 9.0 libraries so you can probably pick up a very cheap card made after that date that would allow the game to work (though it seems performance from the 5x series isn't all that spectacular). A late 6x or early 7x card shouldn't be particularly expensive provided you have a slot that accommodates it. If you've got a PCI-e slot (somewhat doubtful if your motherboard is as old as your graphics card) then go that route. If not, you should have an AGP slot (since I think that's the spec you gave King) so get an AGP version.

(Note that I'm not specifically favouring nVidia here...you could go the ATI route as well and the dates are essentially identical. Personally I'd avoid Intel and go for the most recent nVidia or ATI card that your budget allows.)

Thank you very much for the answer. I'll have a more knowledgeable friend look into what might work for me.

 

[Mr. G]

Give P-dox our spec, and update all the drivers.

 

[unmerged(6777)]

EMERGENCY - HELP

hey all, I am having a difficulties that are litterally eating away at me.

I have downloaded the demo. I have installed, bam, bam, bam. everything well on that department. When I have tried to play it, a pop up came that said could create graphics or something ( look at the below screnie ) ... I have posted a question about and after a little while, I said to myself, the file must have been corrupted so I downloaded it from another source, gamershell. The Installation proces again went fine and things looked until i tried to run it, the same pop up came and this time, i think something is wrong. but I dont know.

as you can see from this screnie, I play other games that demand more than the EU3 demands and I really cant seem why it wont even open. what is at issue?

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a screenie of the proplem, please help, I am desperate for trying EU3.

Are you certain that your card meets the game's requirements?

Have you tried the settings.txt file I posted in the other sticky?

 

[unmerged(50930)]

Intel 2.7GHz Celeron Processor
256MB PC2100 DDR Memory
48x CD-RW Combo Optical Drive ( I also have an external DVD writer/player with much more power )
Integrated AC'97 Audio with Amplified Stereo Speakers
Intel Extreme 3D Graphics with 64MB Shared Memory


YES i know its crappy, but it runs well on DD and Football manager 2007... the later more of a database intesive.

I am owrried I have to change my card... #1... i cant because the computer is crappy... I rather buy a new one that upgrade this one.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Sorry, but your video card does not meet the bare minimum requirements. Even if it squeaked past, the game would likely be unplayable with the combination of the card and low RAM.

 

[unmerged(50930)]

Mr.T, I dont want to look lazy... I have looked around and i really cant find your

settings.txt post

can you please tell me which thread?

 

[jdrou]

Oh okey

Will it be possible with the "fix" that's being created or do I have to get a completely new card?

Very very unlikely. The same issue arose when Battlefield 2 was released; it has a hard requirement for pixel shader 1.4 and the GeForce 4xxx doesn't support that either. That game has a much larger audience and a publisher with much deeper pockets than Paradox (EA) and they never added support for non-PS1.4 cards even though the GF4 line still had a large installed base among gamers at the time (June '05).

 

[unmerged(6777)]

Intel 2.7GHz Celeron Processor
256MB PC2100 DDR Memory
48x CD-RW Combo Optical Drive ( I also have an external DVD writer/player with much more power )
Integrated AC'97 Audio with Amplified Stereo Speakers
Intel Extreme 3D Graphics with 64MB Shared Memory


YES i know its crappy, but it runs well on DD and Football manager 2007... the later more of a database intesive.

I am owrried I have to change my card... #1... i cant because the computer is crappy... I rather buy a new one that upgrade this one.

This definitely won''t run the demo because it doesn't have 128MB video RAM which the game looks for. There's a possible fix in the works for this though. I'm not sure if your graphics card has PS2.0 support so it might be that the workaround wouldn't help you anyway. See here for details.

If you're running XP (probably) then you might also strongly consider increasing your RAM to at least 512 MB (XP will eat almost all of this) or even 1GB. You'll need it.


Edit: in case you still want to try it, the settings.txt file his here but I am 99.99999999999999999999999999999999% certain that it will fail.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Very very unlikely. The same issue arose when Battlefield 2 was released; it has a hard requirement for pixel shader 1.4 and the GeForce 4xxx doesn't support that either. That game has a much larger audience and a publisher with much deeper pockets than Paradox (EA) and they never added support for non-PS1.4 cards even though the GF4 line still had a large installed base among gamers at the time (June '05).

EA isn't exactly at the forefront of customer appreciation/service/etc. though But yes, it seems unlikely.