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Hmm... do more warring, but less pillaging - after all, it's your own country next on the list of conquests!
Well...you are right :D. And with losing tribal gov, I lost the ability to pillage ;).

For now you have plenty of inward bits to perfect... :)
Yeah, it will be a long and painful process.

In my game says that I need to wait 50 years to get core in Beijing and Creat Qing dynasty,how you as made it so fast? Ò.ó
Well, I have stated in the opening post that I've removed the core requirement as I think that the core requirement does not reflect history well.

Referring for example to this:

Wikipedia said:
Firstly the Manchus were able to enter "China proper" only because of Dorgon's timely decision to act on Wu Sangui's appeal for military assistance. After capturing Beijing instead of sacking the city as the rebels had done before them, Dorgon insisted over the protests of other Manchu princes on making it Qing's capital and largely reappointed Ming officials to their posts. Setting the Qing capital in Beijing may seem a straightforward move in hindsight, but it was then an act of innovation because historically no major Chinese dynasty had ever directly taken over its immediate predecessor's capital. Keeping the Ming capital and bureaucracy intact helped quickly stabilize the country and greatly sped up the Manchu process of conquest. However, not all of Dorgon's policies were equally popular nor easily implemented.
So, you can call it cheating...or not.