Grandson inherits king title before uncle, under gavelkind succession

[Lasse Nielsen]

Don't know if it's WAD but here goes...

Im playing the king of England with gavelkind succesion laws. I have two sons, the Duke of Lancaster, who in turn has a son. And a latecommer I'd prefer become a bishop. Then my son, the Duke of Lancaster dies, and I think - ok, so my latecommer son must be my new heir. I make him Duke of Normandy after I marry him of to a genius of a girl. To my horror i discover that my grandson stands to inherit my titel and my son only two counties?!
I thought Gavelkind would split the inheritence between my living sons - not my grandsons?!

 

[K-vald]

Can you submit a save of the issue? I tried to reproduce it but was partly unable to do so.

 

[Lasse Nielsen]

View attachment autosave.zip


This should be it.

 

[K-vald]

Alright, confirmed and I'll pass this along to our internal forums. Thank you for reporting it!

 

[Sleight of Hand]

But the grandson would be the heir to the throne (the most important part of your inheritance) and his uncle (your youngest son) heir to a lesser title such as a duchy. That's actually correct.

 

[Lasse Nielsen]

How do you figure that? I can see my grandson inheriting his father, but not taking preference over my other son in the line of succesion, as I have not predeceased my eldest son.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

Are you talking about a situation whereby you have multiple sons, and the eldest son has a son (your grandson) who is considered the heir to the kingdom, but you think it ought to be one of your younger sons instead? If so, that situation is correct -- look at the Plantagenet empire; Richard's heir was nis nephew Arthur despite the fact he still had a surviving brother (John).

Succession should go through the senior surviving male line, so your grandson by your eldest son would take precedence over your younger sons.

 

[Syren]

I thought this was WAD, the best titles would go down the elder line unless it's extinguished completely and then it would pass on to the senior male of the second line. Made sense to me...

 

[Lasse Nielsen]

Well it wasn't the way it worked in the original CK - there it was split between surviving sons (if memory serves me right), but it could make sense i guess?! Just makes the law even more crappy than before. It would be cool if you had som say in who got what.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

That would be complex though. I don't mind how it works now, with the kingdom going to the eldest son, duchies to the younger sons, etc.

 

[Syren]

Never played CK1 so thats probably why I don't find it strange. It makes sense to me that the grandson would get what his father was going to inherit, but I agree that not being able to choose who gets which duchy/county is a big flaw of gravelkind inherence.

 

[K-vald]

Well, to clarify: The line of succession is WAD (first born son's line of inheritance will have precedence to the main title) but the tooltip should be more clear on what the deal is.

 

[Lasse Nielsen]

Thanks for the clearup - sorry for reporting it as a bug.

 

[K-vald]

Thanks for the clearup - sorry for reporting it as a bug.

Nothing to apologize for, better to have something classified as WAD than to miss a potential bug!