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Yeah, but that's Sweden-Blue, not Burgundy-Blue. It's kind of a mongrel shade, in between France-Blue and Burgundy-Blue. Tres ugly.

And since I haven't said so yet, I'm loving this AAR. Pictures make it 10x better.
 

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Originally posted by Grunthex
Yeah, but that's Sweden-Blue, not Burgundy-Blue. It's kind of a mongrel shade, in between France-Blue and Burgundy-Blue. Tres ugly.

And since I haven't said so yet, I'm loving this AAR. Pictures make it 10x better.
I know. There is a red line between. I couldn't resist to make another contribution to the discussion about more different colors.
 

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Ask, and it shall be given unto you, Galadriel! You have inadvertantly guessed one of Grandfather's next stories.. the one about what happens when Burgundy gets mad at Sweden. I won't spoil it for you, but I will say this: cold winters dont make much difference when your manpower is at 200 and your enemy has wimpy fortresses.

Thanks for your praise, Grunthex. But be warned. There will be fewer screenshots as things progress, due to accidental deletions on my part.

I am now taking official reuqests for another AAR. The current choices I may post are Nippon or Persia. Each one has a very different feel, thanks to heavy handed but different historical events that affect each. Both involve lots of conquest, but Nippon has more colonization. There is little diplomacy in either, simply because Shiite Persia has no friends except the Mamluks, and Nippon annexes by force the only two Confuscian nations.

Which shall it be? Persia or Nippon? Or is there another nation you are just dying to see?
 

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I've played Persia in EU I and it' s a lot of fun. India on one side and the Turks on the other can make for an interesting game. It looks even better in EU II so I vote for Persia.:D

Joe

P.S. Great AAR Secret Master. I always learn a new trick or two reading your posts.;)
 

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Though both options (Nippon and Persia) sound interesting I agree - go for Persia. I'd be interested in seeing how the politics of the Asian Steppes plays out.

Actually, on that note, does Persia even exist in 1419 or does it come about due to the break up of the Timurids?
 

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Anthony,

Persia does not exist at the start of 1419; but if the Timurids wanted to, they can create Persia as a vassal or let Persia revolt. I wont spoil the beginning of that AAR, but a simple start in 1419 as the Timruids, one click of the mouse, and then I can play Persia for the whole game.
 

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I vote for Persia! Nippon seems too dull; an Asian England without our good freinds King Harry, the good boy Oliver, and Queen Bess, or the fun of beating down France like a naughty kid.

BTW, have you considered having the King of Burgundy crown himself Emperor in Rome, as Napster did?
 
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Charlie looks around for someone else to be mean too.

Charles is planning his next step. He truly wants to make Burgundy a real empire. He changes domestic policy to more defensive. Also, he begins planning for a way to secure his European borders. France is a vassal, as well as the Incas and Brittany. Charles decides that he must vassalize all his neighbors in order to be ready to expand overseas. His first target will be Savoy. They are at the worst stability and cannot withstand any intervention.

In November, Venice becomes a vassal of England.

January, 1748: Siena becomes an English vassal. Charles is now very concerned. England continues to gain strength despite her loss in the last war. He considers issuing them a warning.

In April, he issues them a warning.

January, 1749: Troops are still being raised to reinforce the army.

In March, it is clear that it will be an exceptional year.

January, 1750: Charles commissions some new warships, in addition to building the army.

By August, Florida is Catholic.

January, 1751: Charles creates a new army, the North American Expeditionary Force. Its goal is to attack and destroy the natives in North America. The first target for war will be the Iroquois.

In April, Poitu converts to Catholicism, but Maine fails to convert. The army crushes the revolt.

January, 1752: Heresy spreads through Sachsen, turning the province Protestant, even as missionaries are sent to Maine. Charles readies the North American Expeditionary Force for war against the Iroqouis.

In June, the North American Expeditionary Force sails for Savanah to begin war against the Iroquois.

On July 24th. Charles declares war on the Iroquois.
 

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The Iroquois War (July 24th, 1752- November 1st, 1754)

The Iroquois have no allies. The Expeditionary Force marches on Talahassee.

On September 13th, Talahassee is sacked. The army marches on Alabama.

On November 7th, Alabama is sacked. The army marches on Tennessee.

On December 12th, Tennessee is sacked. The army marches on Kentucky.

January, 1753: Charles calls up reinforcements at home to reinforce the army. Attrition is killing it.

On January 19th, Kentucky is sacked. It marches on Miamis.

On March 9th, Miamis is sacked. The army marches on Hindua.

On April 8th, Hindua is sacked. The army marches on Erie.

On June 10th, Erie is sacked. The army marches on Shenandoah.

On July 30th, the Battle of Shenandoah Valley is fought. The Iroquois are crushed.

On August 7th, Shenandoah is sacked. The army marches on Tuscarora.

On September 15th, Tuscarora is sacked. The army marches on Mohawk.

On October 27th, Mohawk is sacked. Burgundy now has their maps.

On December 7th, Irondekoit is sacked.

January, 1754: Onondaga is sacked.

On March 8th, Oswego falls. The army marches on their last stronghold in Alleghany

On September 18th, Alleghany falls.

On November 1st, Charles gets peace from the Iroquois. He takes Talahasee, Alabama, and Alleghany, forces them to become vassals, and takes every ducat in their treasury.
 

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Which war too fight now?

Charles is pleased, but is deciding where to strike next.

January, 1755: Missionaries are sent to Talahasse.

January, 1756: Missionaries are sent to Sachsen to convert the Protestants there.

In September, Byzantium annexes Croatia. Charles sees an opportunity. The reason Burgundy is not great is because it is an Empire without an Emperor. The only real Emperor is the Emperor of the Byzantines. Charles decides he will vassalize them, and proclaim himself Emperor.

He prepares for war with Byzantium.

In November, he orders the Army of Normandie to board ships and to sail for Morea.

January, 1757: England has peacefully annexed Aragon. Charles changes his mind about attacking Byzantium. He now has casus belli on England. He orders the ships to turn around and head for home. Preparations are made for war with England.

In August, a second North American Expeditionary Force boards ships and sails for America.

By November, the Army of Normandie boards ships and prepares to cross the English Channel to land at Wessex.

On December 15th, Charles declares war on England.
 

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The War of Aragonese Succession (December 15th, 1757- March 17th, 1760)

England's only ally is Venice. Charles has casus belli for England's annexation of Aragon.

The Army of Normandie makes a landing at Wessex. Once this is completed the navy will sail in reinforcements and then blockade England. In the New World, the North America Expeditionary Force will be attacking both Susquehanna and Illinois. The Army of Bourgogne will attack English Gerona.

January, 1758: Armies continue to march to destinations.

By June, Illinois has fallen. That army moves on Fox.

By August, several sea battles have been fought. England is now under blockade.

Also, Wessex has fallen. The Army of Normandie marches on Kent.

By September, Gerona is sacked in an assault. The Army of Bourgogne marches on Aragon.

January, 1759: Charles calls up over 70,000 infantry to support the war. Kent will soon fall. Susquehanna has fallen, and the army marches on Catskill.

In April, Kent falls. The Army of Normandie continues to be reinforced across the channel as it marches to prevent the English from liberating Wessex.

On May 29th, the Battle of Portsmouth is fought, giving Burgundy a victory. The Army of Normandie marches on Anglia with reinforcements.

By September, meager resistence in Anglia has been eliminated. London is under heavy siege. Aragon is close to falling.

January, 1760: Aragon has finally fallen. Fox and Catskill are getting closer to falling. London is near collapse. There is no hope in sight for England.

In March, Scotland secedes from England. Charles sends them a large gift to support their effort.

On March 14th, London and Fox both fall.

On the 17th, Charles drags the English parliament to the peace table. He demands vassalage and Fox in North America for peace. They grudgingly accept.
 

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Charles now decides to continue his conversion of heretics in the land.

January, 1761: Missionaries are sent to Savanah.

In November, Maine converts to Catholicism.

January, 1762: Missionaries are sent to Alabama.

In November, rebels break the government of Austria.

January, 1763: Missionaries are sent to Allegheny.

In February, Charles changes domestic policy to more defensive.

In July, the conversion of Sachsen fails. The army is sent in to crush the revolt.

January, 1764: Missionaries are sent to Sachsen again.

In July, Aragon secedes from England. Charles recognizes their government and prepares to offer them money for help.

Also, the army has achieved Levee en Masse.

January, 1765: Charles sends Aragon a state gift, as well as Helvetia.

In March, another state gift is sent to Aragon.

In July, yet another state gift is sent.

In August, England is struck by Civil War.

In October, rebels seize the garrison in Navarre. The army settles down for a long siege.

January, 1766: Artillery is called up for the siege in Navarre.

In August, Navarre is liberated from the rebels.

January, 1767: Fortifications begin construction in Bermuda.

In July, Charles decides it is time that Savoy tow the line. He positions the Army of Poitu on the border and prepares for war.

On October 4th, he declares war.

[ooc note: Savoy's inflation has reached several thousand percent. I have no choice but to annex them outright soon, because their inflation is seeping across our borders.]
 

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The Piedmont War (October 4th, 1767- May 27th. 1768)

The Piedmont War (October 4th, 1767- May 27th. 1768)

They have no allies.

The Army of Poitu marches into Savoie.

January, 1768: Their army was crushed in the Battle of Chambery. The Army of Poitu settles for for a siege.

On March 30th, an assault sacks their capital. The army marches on Piedmont.

On May 27th, Piedmont is sacked in an assault. Charles drags Savoy to the peace table and demands Piedmont and everything in their treasury. That includes the 1200 ducats in their treasury...

For the moment, Charles is satisfied. In a few years, Savoy will cease to exist.
 

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Jean III assumes the throne

Charles uses the money to upgrade some fortresses and sends state gifts to his only allies, Helvetia and Aragon.

In June, the conversion of Sachsen fails. The army crushes the revolt.

January, 1769: Charles has died, and now Jean III, his son, assumes the throne. He is just as ambitious as his father, and intends to make himself an emperor.

He begins saving money so he can convert the Protestants in Sachsen.

In March, Quebec secedes from England. Jean recognizes their government with a royal marriage and prepares to send them gifts.

In April, he sends them a state gift to help them get started.

In May, Naples secedes from England. Jean recognizes them with a royal marriage.

In June, Sicily secedes from England. Jean recognizes them with a royal marriage.

In October, missionaries are sent to Sachsen to convert the Protestants there. Also, a state gift is sent to Sicily to help them throw out the English oppressors.

January, 1770: Jean continues to build the military.

In September, Jean convinces Aragon to become a vassal.

Burgundy's current list of vassals includes: France, England, Iroquois, Brittany, Aragon, the Inca Empire, and Helvetia.

In October, heresy spreads to Talahassee. It is now Protestant.

In December, Holstein secedes from Sweden. Jean recognizes them with a royal marriage.

January, 1771: Jean sends Holstein a state gift to help them overthrow the Swedes.

In August, Tuscany secedes from England. Jean recognizes them with a royal marriage.

In November, he sends them a personal gift.

In November, the conversion of Savanah fails. The army moves in to deal with them.

January, 1772: Money is being spent to send missionaries.

In November, the conversion of Alabama fails. The army moves in to deal with them.

January, 1773: Jean prepares to finish off Savoy. Their inflation is so high it is seeping across the border.

In February, Modena secedes from England. Jean recognizes their government with a royal marriage.

In June, the United States of America secedes from England. Jean recognizes them with a royal marriage. He also plans to help them.

In July, the cities demand their old rights, Jean gives in, and centralization suffers.

Also, on the 1st, he declares war on Savoy.
 

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The War of Savoy's Sovereignty (July 1st, 1773- January 11th, 1774)

The War of Savoy's Sovereignty (July 1st, 1773- January 11th, 1774)

Savoy has allies this time. They include Bavaria, Cataluyna, Austria, Lithuania, and Eire. Jean calls upon his allies Aragon and Helvetia.

The Army of Poitu marches on Savoie, which the Army of Bourgogne marches on Catalonia. The Army of Saxony marches on Wurzburg, owned by Lithuania.

On August 3rd, Wurzburg is sacked. All of Savoy's allies ask for peace, but Jean only gives a white peace to Austria, Eire, and Bavaria. Catalunya and Lithuania will get their due.

The Army of Saxony marches on Erz.

On September 3rd, Savoie is sacked. Jean annexes them directly into the Burgundy Empire. The Army of Poitu is renamed the Army of Savoy and stays put to suppress rebellion.

On September 19th, Catalonia falls. Jean demands vassalage, and they have no choice but to accept. Now, only Lithuania remains.

On October 11th, Erz is sacked. Because Burgundy does not have military access to anywhere, the Army of Saxony cannot run through and sack remaining Lithuania provinces.

In October, the conversion of Allegheny fails. The army is sent in to repress the rebels.

January, 1774: Lithuania offers over 200 ducats for peace. Jean decides to accept. The money is used to send missionaries to Alabama and Savoie. The war is over.
 

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Sharur, I think I will let grandfather answer that one...

"Well, lad, there was nothing stopping Burgundy from invading and annexing England outright at this point in history. But King Jean figured there was no point in bothering with it. They would be too difficult to rule directly, so why not leave enemies of Burgundy as vassals if they do not have the right kind of culture. That way, the pay money every year. Also, they become protected of Burgundy, giving Burgundy full cause to inteven in internal affairs or external ones. And an rich country like England, that is alot of tribute.

But there is one lesson about vassalage I will keep for the moment. Just to give ya a hint, lad, it has to do with making war or not making war."


On another note, Sharur, screenies will have to wait. Some of them seem to have disappeared, and I must go back to save game files and make new ones. Arrgh!