• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

pithorr

Retired hippie
5 Badges
Mar 1, 2001
3.128
10.287
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • 500k Club
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
Sir John said:
How about a 7600GS? The one I'm considering has 256MB on the card so it should be the last card I need with this computer. I'll be buying a new machine in about 2 years I guess, so the card doesn't have to be top of the line and I don't want to spend more than $100.

This is the one I'm looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130076

My problem is very similar to Sir John's: my old GF 5200 makes pathetic performance with EUIII, however the rest of my computer, despite as old as that card, is quite good for other applications I run. I am not going to change everything today so what card is the optimal solution? I have got PIV 2.4GHz (no HT) and mainboard Assus P4P800 with AGP x8 slot...
Is GF 7600GS a good choice, or my CPU is not able to make good use of the card and it would be better to buy poorer (and cheaper) card?...
 

Repr

Second Lieutenant
15 Badges
Feb 7, 2007
198
0
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Rise of Prussia
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
pithorr said:
My problem is very similar to Sir John's: my old GF 5200 makes pathetic performance with EUIII, however the rest of my computer, despite as old as that card, is quite good for other applications I run. I am not going to change everything today so what card is the optimal solution? I have got PIV 2.4GHz (no HT) and mainboard Assus P4P800 with AGP x8 slot...
Is GF 7600GS a good choice, or my CPU is not able to make good use of the card and it would be better to buy poorer (and cheaper) card?...

to make it simple: yes (you can go buy it now)

A GF5200 is an old card. it lacks certain technology needed for most present day cards. however a 7600GS is an excellent card (untill 2 days ago i used a 7600GT...its brilliant). and about your cpu, only intergrated cards use big portions of your cpu power. a stand alone card has its own prossesing unit and will hardly require cpu power. it will turn a bit more load on your motherboard and ram, but with a P4 board i dont see a problem there
 

Sir John

Corporal
34 Badges
May 10, 2004
34
0
www.geocities.com
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • BATTLETECH
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • 500k Club
  • Pride of Nations
  • Stellaris
I went and bought the 7600Gs from newegg, I hope it works. Now I need to find somebody who wants to buy a practically brand-new FX5500 to help offset the cost. Wish me luck guys.
 

Mr. G

Professional stalker
83 Badges
Mar 21, 2006
3.631
34
www.roglebk.se
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Rome Gold
  • Sword of the Stars
  • The Showdown Effect
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • IPO Investor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Divine Wind
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
Sir John said:
I went and bought the 7600Gs from newegg, I hope it works. Now I need to find somebody who wants to buy a practically brand-new FX5500 to help offset the cost. Wish me luck guys.

Ok, good luck! :p
 

Count Drew

General
12 Badges
Jan 14, 2003
1.980
159
Visit site
  • Darkest Hour
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
don't feel bad, I've owned 3 cards in the past 4 weeks. A PCIE 5200, a X1000+ ATI PCIE, and now one that cannot be returned or exchanged I didn't want a 6200 PCIE.

you'll get about 35-40 bucks for that 5500 on Ebay

P.S. if anyone is interested in a 6200 PCIE LE I'll virtually give it away ROFL :rofl:

Sir John said:
I went and bought the 7600Gs from newegg, I hope it works. Now I need to find somebody who wants to buy a practically brand-new FX5500 to help offset the cost. Wish me luck guys.
 

unmerged(49459)

Captain of the Caravel
Oct 16, 2005
825
0
Count Drew said:
don't feel bad, I've owned 3 cards in the past 4 weeks. A PCIE 5200, a X1000+ ATI PCIE, and now one that cannot be returned or exchanged I didn't want a 6200 PCIE.

you'll get about 35-40 bucks for that 5500 on Ebay

P.S. if anyone is interested in a 6200 PCIE LE I'll virtually give it away ROFL :rofl:

I have geforce 6200 pcie with 256 mg, it's pretty nice, eu3 is running almost smoothly, I have bought it 2 years ago though
 

Mr. G

Professional stalker
83 Badges
Mar 21, 2006
3.631
34
www.roglebk.se
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Rome Gold
  • Sword of the Stars
  • The Showdown Effect
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • IPO Investor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Divine Wind
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
Sir John said:
Ok, I've got someone who wants the FX5500 and the 7600GS with be here tomorrow.

I did said that I wised you good luck! :D
 

Mr. G

Professional stalker
83 Badges
Mar 21, 2006
3.631
34
www.roglebk.se
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Rome Gold
  • Sword of the Stars
  • The Showdown Effect
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • IPO Investor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Divine Wind
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
Sir John said:
And I thank you for it. :)

You're welcome :)
(but it was a joke at the first :p )
 

unmerged(72796)

Recruit
Mar 26, 2007
3
0
e3

i start the game the intro plays but the game never starts what is wrong






Duuk said:
I'm taking the liberty of posting this since there are currently _5_ threads on this page about this topic, of which 3 of those threads discuss the same card.

nVidia:

To run EU3 you must have AT LEAST an nVidia 5500 with 128M of RAM. However, that card is NOT recommended and will run EXTREMELY POORLY.
For best results, a 6100+ is recommended (again with 128M or more)

ATI:

Per later info, the Radeon X800GT is known to be of similiar function to the 6000 series by nVidia.

Intel:
Intel (integrated) graphics chipsets have known issues with EU3. Some people reporting playing on them with no issues, others report serious incompatibility. This is an issue with the card itself and has been noted on Intel's forum for not only EU3 but also Civ4, Halflife2, and many other games that use modern graphics code.
At this time, there is no fix for this issue.


My SUGGESTION would be to use the nVidia cards, as I've used them flawlessly for years. Cards in the 6200-6600 range should be more than adequate.

For North American users, http://www.newegg.com has versions of these cards at extremely reasonable prices. (With 1 search I just found a 6200 w/ 128 AGP slot for $40)

Edit: Now updated to _5_ threads, _3_ of them featuring the FX 5500.
 

Count Drew

General
12 Badges
Jan 14, 2003
1.980
159
Visit site
  • Darkest Hour
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
You're fortunate!

I am trying to upgrade my Motherboard, I have researched Dell, and this may help some people with Propierty Units, some Dell MBs can be upgraded it may be cheaper and easier than buying a Video Card. So far I have found a ATIX1300 that'll go in for 88 bucks cheapest, 108 at BestBuy

I got lucky with that GEForce card PCIE, I unloaded it for 25 dollars... The PCI Bus Version costs 150!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a rip off!!!! WHY?

Sir John said:
Ok, I've got someone who wants the FX5500 and the 7600GS with be here tomorrow.
 

Count Drew

General
12 Badges
Jan 14, 2003
1.980
159
Visit site
  • Darkest Hour
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
christlike said:
i start the game the intro plays but the game never starts what is wrong

christlike,

sounds like you have a video problem... :) if you were more specific maybe you'd get some help. I'm not registering EU3 till I know I'm keeping it
 

jdrou

Field Marshal
74 Badges
Jun 10, 2002
24.161
461
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Paradox Order
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Humble Paradox Bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma Pre-order
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Deus Vult
  • Darkest Hour
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • Victoria 2
  • Rome Gold
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
ML4Rudy said:
ATI Mobility Fire GL 7800.

Will the above card be sufficient to run EU3?
No, that is based on the Mobility Radeon 7500 (or M7) which is far below the minimum for EU3.
 

Graymane

Major
66 Badges
Apr 27, 2001
681
0
Visit site
  • Stellaris
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Supreme Ruler 2020
  • Victoria 2
Is the following card good enough to run the game since it looks like I must buy a new one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195031R

I got the game for my b-day this weekend and my current card doesn't seem to support the game. I have

Card name: SAPPHIRE RADEON 9200 ATLANTIS
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9200 AGP (0x5961)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5961&SUBSYS_7C13174B&REV_01
Display Memory: 128.0 MB