GRAND EUROPE - smalltalk and others

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Yeah, it really has ...

I have currently holiday, and therefore a lot of time to spend at this forum. I start school August 18 - and then you`ll not hear a lot from me except from the weekends.

And the smileys is great, I think ... Nothing wrong to use them?

 

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Have noticed very few have read my post at the "official treaty" -thread from top to bottom. I hope this will change in the future, as I state a lot of important information here. In the moment I think it`s awfully important that everybody reads through their clause in "the non-aggression Treaty of Grand Duke Vytautas".

And I beg you;

(from the official treaty and important information" thread):
I would appreciate if you all decided a name of a person signing the deal [non-aggression Treaty] for your country, and then write it down and send it to me, personal or at the open forum. Thanks.

 

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Well, well, well - what may I say, Gottwaldus... You are a really nice guy! And your engagement is just fantastic! Looking forward for a good cooperation.

 

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By the way: thanks a lot Styrbiorn! You have helped my a lot! But why am I not allowed to intitate as many shields I want? When I intiateted more than 2 shields, a message came up and said I would need permission from the moderator to intitate more...

 

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Well - here`s the updated list of changes, special rules, patches and others. NOTE: This IS a compromise, and NOTHING is open for discussion:

Changes in the scenariofile (Europa Universalis 2>Scenarios>The Grand Campaign.eug)*:
-All human players are automatically made leader of their alliance as long as no other human player is member of it.
-Lithuania is granted one extra diplomat
-All players will be able to change one of their DP sliders one tick. Players who use this opportunity will lose 1 in stability
-Due to the reformation, the religion of the provinces of Lappland, Narvik, Finnmark, Iceland, Eiriksfjord and Vestbygden will be changed to Protestant, even if they are colonized. Currently, they only reform when no colonists are sent there. This has connection with that the trigger for conversion is that all protestant provinces are protestantcatholic until 1521, which function fine with all other provinces, except for these. Paradox themselves has recognized this, but does not want to change it because it will mean that they would have to change the trigger for all protestant provinces, which is a hell of a work - much easier for us

Changes in other files**:
-(Europa Universalis 2>Config>text.csv): `Sweden` is changed to `Scandinavia`.
-(Europa Universalis 2>GFX>map>shields) and (Europa Universalis 2>GFX>map>flags): Swedens flag and shields (SWE) are changed to Courland`s (KUR) and vice verca.

Special rules:
-Human players are allowed to make diplomacy on a large scale. This include selling/buying provinces/colonies, soldiers and ships; form special alliances (maximum two human players per military alliance); make special agreements, related to – among other things – trade; and take loans with guaranteed repayment (the host will punish players who doesn`t repay loans to other players, if this is a part of the deal). These changes can be edited between the sessions or simulated in – the involved player(s) decide. It will – however – not be possible to quit a session just to make such changes.
-If a player crashes and have to leave the game, he will the first time be allowed to join with once. If it happens another time he will not be able to join until the next 1st of January unless he is at war.
-No human player may declare a player – that suffers from the rule above – war.

Settings:
Difficulty: Very Hard
AI Aggression: Normal
Fog of War: ON
Forced annexion: ON
Base VP: ON
Missions: OFF
Speed: Below Normal
-No autosave, but the host will be responsible for saving the game every year (1st of January).

Patches:
The newest beta patch will always be used

*=these changes are done by the host who edits the scenario file (if he don`t want, I can do it)
**=everyone will have to do these changes on their own version of EU2

 

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Well - here`s the updated list of changes, special rules, patches and others. NOTE: This IS a compromise, and NOTHING is open for discussion:

Didn`t meant to be cheeky But it is still a compromise...

 

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Originally posted by Sikakoira
Lots of smilies

I wonder would it be practical if I get a sub for just the two hours in the beginning... I hope the AI won't get into too much wars :/

Your post count has been skyrocketing by the way... IIRC you were around the same as me at some point. 10 posts per day

And I realy realy hope Austrian AI accepts royal marriage or at least wont declare war on Venice as we should be allies

 

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Yeah, that would be very, very bad ...

But they usually declare Helvetia war in the start. The only problem is that they maybe enter alliances with other countries, and then not as the leader ...

 

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FROM gak`s OFFICIAL TREATY THREAD:
Our ambassador in Austria reports:
250703: This letter was delivered to the Scandinavian Embassy in Vienna this morning:

quote:
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[25/7] Austria does not like imperialism, and that's what your future plans clearly are. Don't you think the crowns of Denmark and Norway have something to say about it? They surely don't like to be backstabbed. And who knows what will be your next target, after "uniting" Scandinavia? According to our intelligence reports your announcements are pure lies. At least they are not happy of the change of the traditional blue-and-yellow cross-flag.
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In addition to this the Austrian government asserts that Scandinavia surpresses the ethnic finno-ugric people, which is the purest lie I have seen for months! In fact Scandinavia (or Sweden) was known for treating its minorities well, especially those in conquered areas. In Latvia and Estonia people look back on the "good old Swedish time" for a very good reason: Sweden built up their new provinces instead of ruining them as Austria did in the slavic areas!
When that is stated, the Scandinavian ambassador can calm down the Austrians: we are not going to expand more than neccessary to defend the people of our two state cultures: Ugric and Scandinavian. Our politics is completely in line with the people of Norway and Denmark - only the aristocratic governments in these countries are negative to a united Scandinavia!
The Scandinavian government repeat that they have no claims in other human-controlled powers - which, of course, includes Austria - and believes that the agressive and unfriendly attitude presented by the Austrian leaders is unprovoked. Our generous leadership will therefore send a confidential letter to Austria which may include some benefits for this German superpower. The letter will - however - not be sent until the Austrian ambassador in Stockholm has sent an official apology for their insane assertions against our republic.


270703: Another letter was sent from the Emperor of Austria:
quote:
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[27/7]The discussion with the Scandinavian government is leading nowhere, because apparently we can't much decide to the wars of the insane Swedish leader claiming the whole Scandinavia to be theirs. Your stupid lies about whole Scandinavia wanting to join Sweden are worth nothing, and the Emperor wishes not to waste more time in this stupid debate with the childish leader of Sweden. Therefore we make known that we will no more answer to your insult announcements.
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Good - then we know who`s right.




MY COMMENT:
Grand Duke Vytautas the Great is concerned by the cold relationship between Austria and Scandinavia, and have someting to announce in that matter;

I appreciate my future ally don`t insult my beloved friend, the Holiness the Emperor of Austria. Now when his Holiness has decided to end this discussion, I demand you don`t querrel anymore.

I also appreciate that my companions in Austria don`t insult my future ally. As long as they still don`t have conquered a single province, the discussion leads nowhere.

 

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Totally agree, Gottwaldus: but it was he that started (buhuuuu!)

By the way: I will start a new poll - well not exactly a poll then - where I ask which DP slider you will change one tick and in which direction. If you don`t want the stability hit you can decide not to use this deal and not change anything.

 

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It has changed now to only one DP tick?

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The bastard leader of Scandinavia caused this himself. We just showed our attitude towards your stupid lies you try to hide your greed behind.

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That didn't belong to this thread, but, well...

 

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Yeah, problems ahead with all of my Royal Marriages and Military Alliance i have already agreed of, with AI controlling the 2 hours first.

Venice and Lithuania, let's do the agreements when I come back controlling Austria. And Venice, I assume I will be the alliance leader.

So players are forbidden to attack me for the time AI is controlling my nation?

 

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Originally posted by Sikakoira
Yeah, problems ahead with all of my Royal Marriages and Military Alliance i have already agreed of, with AI controlling the 2 hours first.

Venice and Lithuania, let's do the agreements when I come back controlling Austria. And Venice, I assume I will be the alliance leader.

So players are forbidden to attack me for the time AI is controlling my nation?

Agreed.

 

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Originally posted by gak
By the way: I will start a new poll - well not exactly a poll then - where I ask which DP slider you will change one tick and in which direction. If you don`t want the stability hit you can decide not to use this deal and not change anything.

I expect a lot of players to boycott this change, gak ...

I`m not sure what to do myself.

 

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And gak,

Please don't get offended to me because of the Emperor's latest announcement.

 

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Originally posted by Gottwaldus
Have noticed very few have read my post at the "official treaty" -thread from top to bottom. I hope this will change in the future, as I state a lot of important information here. In the moment I think it`s awfully important that everybody reads through their clause in "the non-aggression Treaty of Grand Duke Vytautas".

And I beg you;

(from the official treaty and important information" thread):
I would appreciate if you all decided a name of a person signing the deal [non-aggression Treaty] for your country, and then write it down and send it to me, personal or at the open forum. Thanks.

And the Grand Duke clearly hasn't completely read my announcement to the Lithuanian government.

And I am very suprised the Non-Aggression Pact doesn't include that neither Lithuania can attack Austria in that time period. I refuse to sign it if that is not added.

And could you please put Austria's title to the treaty as,

His Holiness the Emperor of Austria

 

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Osweld:

I accused you for ignoring my non-aggression treaty offer, and you answered:

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I'm not ignoring it, infact I have already created a draft reply. You'll get it eventually.

I still don`t have recived any "draft reply". Can`t you just write my one word; ADDEPTED? (or eventually refused, which would be very weird, as all other countries have accepted.)

I sexpect our countries to be friend in the future, and therefore hope there will be no further delays.

Vive la France!

 

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And could you kind people please tell what is the link to the Austrian avatar?

 

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Lithuania accept your request regarding to the non-aggression Treaty. A "b." will be added soon ...

Your name in the Treaty will not be changed, as it would have made the deal more muddy.

 

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Originally posted by Gottwaldus
Lithuania accept your request regarding to the non-aggression Treaty. A "b." will be added soon ...

Your name in the Treaty will not be changed, as it would have made the deal more muddy.

"The Holiness the Emperor of Austria" just sounds stupid And I have never said I would want that name to be signed....

Damn secretaire. Somebody will be hanged or boiled in a meat soup alive because of this. The Emperor is thinking about His decision.