Grand Campaign Country Choices

[Soapy Frog]

Having played 30-odd years of the GC, I have to say it's a marked improvement. VERY happy with the new peace resolution process and the new diplomatic options. Also I love how the costs of diplomacy are scaled to the size of the target country (it's seems? haven't bothered to read the manual yet).

One strange thing:

Why are Byzantium and Novgorod playable for the GC? Byzantium was overrrun by Turkey in the 1453 and Novgorod absorbed by Muscovy... so why can't I play Muscovy? Especially since Muscovy becomes Russia, not Novgorod.

Anyway Byzantium and Novgorod would be nice "fantasy" options, but relaistically the "histroical" GC should not have Byzantium playable (maybe Japan instead?) and should have Muscovy instead of Novgorod.

Otherwise no complaints, only high praise... even though my ships seem to be able to quite happily use enemy ports

 

[Havard]

Originally posted by Soapy Frog
Why are Byzantium and Novgorod playable for the GC?

ALL countries are playable. Just right-click your mous on a shield on the selection screen to change it. (Oh - and reading the manual helps )

 

[Demetrios]

Have you tried right-clicking on the shields to change them? That should bring up the entire list of nations for you to choose from...

 

[unmerged(5367)]

i thought ALL nations were playable, according to screenshots u can change the "majors", right click on shield maybe?

 

[BiB]

It's right there in the middle of the country selection screen! Why does everyone not read this ? Good to hear the ai does well

 

[unmerged(2826)]

Well, the game starts in 1419 instead of 1492 now, so both still existed (I assume)

 

[unmerged(6356)]

and besides, perhaps had Byzantium had more help from the west, she would not have fallen to the infidels in 1453. The turks shall PAYYYY for Manzikert.

 

[Demetrios]

Originally posted by BiB
It's right there in the middle of the country selection screen! Why does everyone not read this ? Good to hear the ai does well

In our beta version the notice to right click to change a shield is in large print and in all capitals. It's not in small print so it's not hard to notice. I assume it is the same in the public release version?

 

[unmerged(3434)]

Maybe too much excitement to read all that text?

Did you open the box or put it whole in the cd rom?

 

[hjarg]

Originally posted by Vlad Gauls Bane
and besides, perhaps had Byzantium had more help from the west, she would not have fallen to the infidels in 1453. The turks shall PAYYYY for Manzikert.

Or getting a really competent leader for the country, one who can reform the military and kick some Turkish butt back to the Asia.

But yes, right-cliking should be easily spotted

 

[unmerged(4640)]

It's the same way in the public version...but nobody cares to look at it.

 

[hjarg]

Originally posted by AncientPharaoh
It's the same way in the public version...but nobody cares to look at it.

Yes, it seems like it's always easier to chech the forums for an answer

 

[Soapy Frog]

It could be, that in FACT, I am as blind as BLIND BLIND bat with no actual eyeballs.

See, there I was, cruising along in EU1 mode trying to play EU2.

Now I will read the manual cover to cover to avoid looking like a COMPLETE IMBECILE once again

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Now that that's out of the way... maybe Novgorod and Byzantium should not be the DEFAULTS for a GC. Heh. Better?

D'oh.

BTW the AI does not seem to be DRASTICALLY improved, but I have not played more than 30 years, so we'll see.

 

[Havard]

Originally posted by Soapy Frog

Now I will read the manual cover to cover to avoid looking like a COMPLETE IMBECILE once again

We haven't beta-tested the manual though...

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Now that that's out of the way... maybe Novgorod and Byzantium should not be the DEFAULTS for a GC. Heh. Better?

Well, maybe not, but you can change that if you want to...

D'oh.

BTW the AI does not seem to be DRASTICALLY improved, but I have not played more than 30 years, so we'll see.

Nice to hear that

 

[Ichabod]

Can you select nations that did not yet exist in 1419 (i.e. the United States), or for that matter nations that were distroyed not long before 1419 (i.e. the Kingdom of Jerusalem). Just wondering, I saw an AAR where the Kingdom of Jerusalem was set free after Castille conquered Judea.

 

[unmerged(4055)]

i don't think so for usa but i do for kingdom of jerusalem.

 

[unmerged(739)]

probably just the feature where you can set certain provinces free, albeit as your vassal, so I guess Judea would be one of those

 

[unmerged(2540)]

Well, just have to jump in and say many thanks. I have a game as the Aztecs going(hah, 1470, inflation of 29%, I will reach land tech 3 by 1500, naval by 1984, Infra by 1897 and Trade by 1789. Now that is what I call scientific advancement! Seriously tho, first thing I saw in the selection screen was that bit about right clicking on a shield to change it.

As for the countries available, thanks. Now I can try and hold off Spain and those damnable Europeans as the Aztecs. Already eliminated the Mayans and the Zapotecs. Stupid Navaho won't become my vassals, and my colonization attempts are beyond weak. 64%, still fail. Whoo hoo!

Also, out of curiousity, what countries have people tried already? any non-euro, non-asian countries(perhaps and African one? An American?)

 

[Dark Knight]

Originally posted by Honour_Shogun
Also, out of curiousity, what countries have people tried already? any non-euro, non-asian countries(perhaps and African one? An American?)

We beta-testers have already tried just about every country in the game.

I complained about Novgorod and Byzantium being among the default selections, though; this seems rather silly IMHO.

 

[BiB]

U can't select and play a game that isn't in the starying scenario settings. Editing the file to include it anyway to play will crash ur game unless u totally edit it in.