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Earl Uhtred said:
So I assume that insane microing still exists with assigning governors non-stop in a grand empire? I was considering to give the game another try after this patch but the mere thought of that experience is enough for me to re-consider that. :wacko:
kingsword said:
Thank you for your bashings sir. I am sure we will all enjoy our game experience much more knowing that. Seriously, what do we care if you don't like the game? Why post about it? Heres a tip: If you don't like a game then just dont play it and move on. Simple. These forums are for people who actually play this game. Be gone with you.
Sheltonious said:
Defensive fan-boy much, em? It was a legitimate question, not just bashing the game. He asked if a 'feature' he found to be tedius had been changed by the patch or not.
The answer is yes, that governor assignment aspect has not changed, and the relative blandness of traits and skill is still there as well.
If I may speak up here, I think that if kingsword doesn't want to play the game only because he has to assign governors and doesn't like it, he's missing the big picture here. There is a mod somewhere that auto-assign them for you... If it's his only reason not to play, well, he's either lazy (for not looking for the mod) or stupid (for lacking a better reason not to play) or liar (because he has another reason he doesn't want to tell). He should at least give it a new try and/or not speak up publicly about it since it is not constructive. My two pences.Ericus1 said:
Amusing, I guess it takes worshiper-grade devotion to be able to ask questions in a forum. I've been playing pretty much all of the Paradox titles over years and am a loyal fan myself, but not to the degree that I'll take whatever is offered. Rome had its fair share of problems to the point that it made me stop playing back at 1.1. I wanted to check if one of the main problems was still there. I couldn't care less about your 'two pences' as you didn't with my question.
My constructive posts were here months ago but not like they help anything by themselves as seen here, the problem still is there apparently.
My constructive posts were here months ago but not like they help anything by themselves as seen here, the problem still is there apparently.
Well, sorry for being rude in my earlier post (although not as rude as Sheltonious, I think). I did not bash you question, but your comment made after. I didn't take the time to answer your question since Ericus1 did before me. He's right, characters are still bland (but less than before) and you still have to manually assign governors.kingsword said:
In my humble opinion, governor assigning is really minor considering the other improvements they added in 1.2 and 1.3. If you don't like to micromanage, you don't have to assign a governor to each and every province and there is an event that will offer a governor to an empty province, all you have to do is agree or disagree, although I prefer chosing my governors manually. Maybe next step will be to patch this as to make assigning governors less complicated (by giving larger regions to govern) or automatic, but to me what was fixed in 1.2 and 1.3 was way more important than assigning governors.
All I meant in my previous post was: things have changed a lot since 1.1 and if manually assigning governors is the only reason you have not to play, you're missing a lot.
No, of course it wasn't the only reason but the one that had me say "enough is enough" as maybe half the time I spent with the game was re-sorting characters and trying to juggle them between less important and more important provinces. It took quite a bit of effort as characters seemed to die quite a bit younger than say, in Crusader Kings. This is understandable of course, the thing that's not however is not having middle-level governors. I voiced this concern along with dozens of other people maybe, it doesn't take anything special to make such a suggestion as it was done years ago by the very same company.
It wasn't my intention to bash the game via a rhetorical question but I did, indeed chose the words to convey my earlier thoughts about the matter to get a clear answer about it. Because I know that not everyone would understand what I meant with it, as they didn't months ago.
In any case, I'm glad that we overcame our misunderstanding. I'll be checking that mod and that event you mentioned.
It wasn't my intention to bash the game via a rhetorical question but I did, indeed chose the words to convey my earlier thoughts about the matter to get a clear answer about it. Because I know that not everyone would understand what I meant with it, as they didn't months ago.
In any case, I'm glad that we overcame our misunderstanding. I'll be checking that mod and that event you mentioned.
I am also glad this misunderstanding is over. Try out the mod (I have no idea which one, but someone else might be able to indicate you the name, I only know it exists somewhere). You'll thank me later 
Ericus1 said:
This is what I was hopeful would be addressed in the patch. Would it be fair to state that balance issues have been considerably addressed, but that the bland gameplay associated with a lackluster implementation of personalities has not changed?
Apart from the barbarian minors that still need some reworking/rethinking, I'd say you're right. Most other balance issue have been properly addressed, in my opinion.Bertouch said:
Scipio Aemilius said:
Damn. And based on perhaps misunderstanding Johan's previous comments in the forum, I was really looking forward to additional personality traits, and the greater integration of all such traits into active gaming.
Oh, well. I can always reinstall if something like that pops up as another patch. Thanks!
Well, the characters and traits have improved a bit. I still think there is much more to be done to make me like them for more than their stats or their names (Lucius Aemilius Paullus as Consul, that was sweet!). The characters are now the only weak part of the game.
Scipio Aemilius said:
The problem for me (and I'm by no means saying that is true for others) is that without the characters, the gameplay is rather flat. It feels rather like EU3 Lite: just my opinion. The addition of characters I thought was a brilliant idea, and Paradox has from time to time stated that these aren't implemented, but will be, at some point.
I'm sure I remember reading Johan state that they had more personality incidents to be implemented in the 1.3 patch, but I guess they decided against their use. Too bad: there just isn't enough here to hold my imagination. But each to their own.
agree with Bertouch - i think characters are central to EU:rome, give it real flavour - you can get attached to sucessful generals, leaders etc - just wish character historys were updated to include titles and offices not just events and battles
We went with "If you don't like it, off with you" in Forum member complains about Rome
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LoL, too bad I don't get personal wealth out of this, or family prestige...Kamamura said:
And just for precision's sake, I didn't use the "royal we", Sheltonious did, and I don't want to be associated with him on this matter. Sure, we have the same avatar, but that's where the similarities end.
As for more personal events, some were added, but it's still not enough to my own tastes. Plus, is it me or every character is less loyal? I'm having a hard time naming generals with more than 60% loyalty...
EDIT: There, changed my avatar for something more... appropriate
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