Government deposed, chaos reigns, help!

[unmerged(75653)]

Hi all,

I'm playing my first game and chose Brazil.
I decided to go to war against a neighbour (Paraguay) with just two small armies. I got instant revolts (about 3 rebel armies) which I chose to ignore untill the war was concluded. This was a bad move- by the time I started to deal with them it was too late, the government suffered a coup by these Anarcho-Liberals.

This has given me several problems: firstly I cannot build factories or railways and any AI built factories get bizzarely demolished a few days later by the AI, in certain respects this has in effect reduced me to being a spectator of a computer game running itsself as I cannot hold elections or implement any reforms either.

Secondly, I am getting constant revolts by.....Anarcho-Liberals: the very people in charge of the dictatorship! The latest one (which caused me to stop watching the game and come here) involves 60 of the 70-odd provinces which is simply too much for me too deal with, and is no fun at all.

So, can anyone tell me why anarcho-Liberals are rebelling against their own Anarcho-Liberal dictorship? And, were I to allow the government to fall, surely it would simply be replaced by another......Anarcho-Liberal government?

Finally, how can I get rid of this government so I can actually jump in and start playing the game?!!

For Paradox: My UK boxed game has arrived without a manual; it only comes with a map and a tech guide booklet, is this correct? It surely cannot be?!

 

[BRK]

Playing Brazil I've not had any of these problems. Started with a conservative government, immediately appointed a Liberal government, allied with Argentina and won the war with Paraguay. (acquisition of core) Can't build any factories,of course,but the capis are doing a pretty good job thus far.

 

[King]

As far as I know there should be a PDF manual on the disc.

 

[Lauri]

Seems like you lost your capital to the rebels, and when that's been occupied for 365 days, your gouvernment changes to what the rebels want

I was Argentina, and wanted to become Communist, because all I did didn't do me much good... after about 50 years the commies started showing up, and in a few years they were gathering 600k rebels, with 20% of spawning. Just as I had mopped up the Anarcho-Liberals that spawned and were 300k the month before, the commies spawn. xD
I let them take charge though, and my nation now runs MUCH smoother.. Social reforms are my best weapon to keep my POP cool..

 

[Thud]

If I were you I would restart. Its going to be hard enough for you to get the hang of the political game mechanics without a majority of your provinces in revolt and a liberal dictatorship.

Although if you want to keep going, or if you want help in troubleshooting, here's a little help. Have you tried enacting political reforms? Can you? Have you tried to find out why all of these pops are revolting? Is it that they want a certain reform? Are they out of money and unable to buy goods?

When you have a laissez-faire or interventionist party in power, your capitalists can build your factories and railroads. What are your taxes set at? Rich taxes should be set low. What are your sliders? If you have your military spending too high, your economy may collapse as everyone reverts to being a soldier.

Make sure to guard your capitol always against revolters, especially since anarcho-liberals have a tendency to spawn in your most developed state, which is often were your capitol is.

 

[ajm317]

Although if you want to keep going, or if you want help in troubleshooting, here's a little help. Have you tried enacting political reforms? Can you?

I think that if you get an Anarcho-Liberal dictatorship you can't enact any kind of reform at all.

I'm guessing the only way to rid yourself of them is via revolution. If all you're getting is more anarcho-liberal rebels I think you have to deal with them first, then hope/engineer it so some other kind of rebel pops up later.

 

[unmerged(75653)]

Thanks for the replies all.

Yes, sadly the Capital fell- it was one of the three spawn points for the rebels!

I can't change government, hold elections or enact any reforms.

I'd be loathe to restart the game as I'm upto about 1870 now, all I want is to get rid of the dictatorship really.

There are no major issues with the pops but there are upto 10% revolt risks in quite a few provinces- I always try to push up the CON of the pops in the vast number of random events: might this be a factor?

I just don't understand why the revolters are always Anarcho-Liberal whilst it is an Anarcho-Liberal dictatorship: it is afterall their idealogy being persued by the dictatorship!

Checking desire for individual reforms nothing is higher than 3% whilst the hottest (and only main issue) is abolishion of slavery, but the % roughly corresponds with the number of slaves in the nation.
In all the territories I have taken I have made them free-states (from slavery), could this be a factor ?

I'm just flummoxed! If I could get rid of the dictatorship I think things would settle down as the majority of the nation are now Liberal, as I desired from the start.

Any further ideas or suggestions? I cannot cope with 60 of 70 provinces revolting, it's just too much like hard work and no fun.

 

[vertinox]

Thanks for the replies all.

Yes, sadly the Capital fell- it was one of the three spawn points for the rebels!

I can't change government, hold elections or enact any reforms.

I'd be loathe to restart the game as I'm upto about 1870 now, all I want is to get rid of the dictatorship really.

There are no major issues with the pops but there are upto 10% revolt risks in quite a few provinces- I always try to push up the CON of the pops in the vast number of random events: might this be a factor?

I just don't understand why the revolters are always Anarcho-Liberal whilst it is an Anarcho-Liberal dictatorship: it is afterall their idealogy being persued by the dictatorship!

Checking desire for individual reforms nothing is higher than 3% whilst the hottest (and only main issue) is abolishion of slavery, but the % roughly corresponds with the number of slaves in the nation.
In all the territories I have taken I have made them free-states (from slavery), could this be a factor ?

I'm just flummoxed! If I could get rid of the dictatorship I think things would settle down as the majority of the nation are now Liberal, as I desired from the start.

Any further ideas or suggestions? I cannot cope with 60 of 70 provinces revolting, it's just too much like hard work and no fun.

I think with a dictator ship you should try to go with events that raise mil until their is an open revolt. Set military spending as low as it will go so pops aren't employed by the military and get cranky being unemployed.

This might be a bit gamey as well but you can declare a war of conquest annexation on a landlocked unciv minor which should raise your infamy to 20 or higher. That should get your pops angry after a while.

Or you could declare load up as a major and then declare war on yourself and the save and then reload let them beat you down in a "cut down to size war". Then your pops will get really angry...

Of course you might get a fascist part in after that but but at least you'll get state capitalism.

 

[unmerged(75653)]

Haha!
I love the idea of declaring war on myself! The UK are on my doorstep (In Br. Honduras?), but France is my protector and I just managed to get out of their war on my doorstep by the skin of my teeth

Raising the MIL sounds interesting. There is a small second faction which I believe is Conservative, perhaps I should try to get them really angry untill they revolt! On the otherhand, they'd then become the new dictatorship if I allowed them to take over...

Perhaps I should just restart afterall? On the otherhand I've been learning a fair bit and my troops have been gaining a fair bit of experience putting down the mass uprisings, it's just the last one that I felt was too much (the 60 of 70-odd provinces revolting, all Anarcho-Liberals revolting against their own dictatorship.)

I guess from your suggestions that the only realistic option to get rid of this dictatorship is have the nation collapse in a war I lose against another power?