TheArchduke said:
Never too late. PM me a request for a position (include what you'd like to have and in what area) or just post your ideas as an advisor.
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Never too late. PM me a request for a position (include what you'd like to have and in what area) or just post your ideas as an advisor.
If it will let us get back to crushing the Soviets happily then by all means "plan" to invade Sweden. But I think the idea of relooking before the attack to make sure we haven't set ourselves up to fail is also a good idea.
If we bring spain in I would really sugest sending Military advisors to them to assist in their stategies. (IE Military control). Just my thoughts.
Lets leave turkey alone till we can be sure that Russia won't steam roll them.
If we bring spain in I would really sugest sending Military advisors to them to assist in their stategies. (IE Military control). Just my thoughts.
Lets leave turkey alone till we can be sure that Russia won't steam roll them.
w00t! Made the 1,000 posts line! 
After the get-to-go for the planning we can have various stages.
Stage 1: The point where the Mechanised forces are completed.
Stage 2: The point where all forces are ready for the offensive (full org and alike).
Stage 3: 1 hour before H-hour (before DoW).
If at any point any front faces danger then the whole operation can be cancelled.
After the get-to-go for the planning we can have various stages.
Stage 1: The point where the Mechanised forces are completed.
Stage 2: The point where all forces are ready for the offensive (full org and alike).
Stage 3: 1 hour before H-hour (before DoW).
If at any point any front faces danger then the whole operation can be cancelled.
Look, I don't think you seem to understand. In order to puppet, we'll have to obliterate a good portion of the Swedish military, leaving us with a paltry few divisions to use. Not only that, but we won't get any steel. We'll also be forced to extend the Iron Line, build a few defense for the front that will be opened from Mannerheim to Stockholm, and send MORE German units away from the Eastern Front than we already have to.
Any invasion of Sweden is a waste of time, money, resources, posts, server space, and will doom our fight in Scandanavia. An invasion of Sweden would be an unmitigated disaster. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT, continue endorsing the plan for an invasion of Sweden. Anyone who continues to speak of an invasion should be arrested and shot as Soviet spies and traitors to the German Reich.
Any invasion of Sweden is a waste of time, money, resources, posts, server space, and will doom our fight in Scandanavia. An invasion of Sweden would be an unmitigated disaster. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT, continue endorsing the plan for an invasion of Sweden. Anyone who continues to speak of an invasion should be arrested and shot as Soviet spies and traitors to the German Reich.
Are we yet capable of producing paratroops? For in case of an invasion of Sweden we have to seize certain inland targets very rapidly (such as Falun with its level three fort).
Otherwise, I wonder if it is wise to open a second front in Scandinavia, mostly since that if the soviets really want to they can rout us, I believe that we shall take all VP provinces as fast as possible with minimum bloodshred on both sides, then puppet, thereby we will get a portion of steel (granted that we can defend our convoys) and the entire swedish army + airforce, the swedes can probably hold the soviets in Stockholm and Luleå while the rest helps defending the iron line.
Otherwise, I wonder if it is wise to open a second front in Scandinavia, mostly since that if the soviets really want to they can rout us, I believe that we shall take all VP provinces as fast as possible with minimum bloodshred on both sides, then puppet, thereby we will get a portion of steel (granted that we can defend our convoys) and the entire swedish army + airforce, the swedes can probably hold the soviets in Stockholm and Luleå while the rest helps defending the iron line.
TC Pilot said:
I declare myself neutral, all I have been doing is waging risks agains gains, I swear... Please, take my house, the furniture, my (non existant) wife, oh please have mercy!!!!
TC Pilot: Sweden has 10 VP points, that means we need 7 right? Or 8? We can take them fast and swiftly. Furthermore the only extension will be in Stockholm which we can guard with relative ease. With mechanised forces we can be in Stockholm very fast without needing to totally destroying swedish divisions.
Zuck: That's the plan...
Zuck: That's the plan...
I hereby accuse HJ Tulp of being a traitor and demand he be stripped of his command and imprisoned immediately
Zuckergußgebäck said:
Falun is not important. All the neccessary VP's can be taken in the south by the mechs with AT. Also as long as we don't have transport planes which take too long and are too expensive to produce now, we will not build paratroopers.
TC Pilot said:
Firstly, we WILL get steel from them. Why wouldn't we ? And we do NOT need convoys to get the steel home. It will fly on the back of a hippogrif all the way to Berlin
Secondly we DON'T need to destroy the swedish division. It is only neccessary to push them back in a few provinces. With 6 mechs, 3 could stand guard in the secured provinces, and the others will sweep forward to Stockholm. We will NOT have to extend the Iron Line. With Sweden we can put 5-7 inf divions more into that province and perhaps turn the tide in Finland. Hell with the Swedish fleet we can provide our troops with shore bombardment
The swedish invasion will not take a month either. The mechs are really fast. It shouldn't take more than 2-3 weeks if done properly. The Ikean Take Down is swift and suttle
TC Pilot said:
Please calm down TC Pilot! We cannot have one of our best and most decorated commanders flying off the handle and causing division in the leadership. I have noted your STRONG oppsition to the offensive in Sweden and will consider it in my final decision to invade or not.
I will mention that I cannot stand the thought of innocent civilians in southern Finland now living under the rough hand of Soviet occupation. We need to liberate them ASAP!
How? Puppeting won't give us their stockpiles, assuming they have any.
Considering the vast superiority of our troops to the Swedish and the minimum three hour rule, we WILL destroy some of their divisions and badly maul the rest.
Unless you're blind, you should notice that Sweden borders Soviet occupied Finland in two places
5-7 divisions spread out across 2 provinces would be useless against even half that many Soviet divisions. Futhermore, all it would take is an offensive in Finland to have them send 50+ divisions to anihalate us.
Hell, so can the Royal Navy once they sink it.
Would you do so at the expense of having GERMAN civilians under Soviet occupation?
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It's good to see a heated debate. I'll bet the german generals had a few of those as well.
Glad Hitler's not in charge you two woulda been shot by now.
I say plan the invasion but keep an eye on our situation in case we have to abort.
No, but it will give us some of the resources they produceTC Pilot said:
Unless YOU are blind, you see that sweden only borders soviet occupied finland at ONE spot.
5-7 divisions spread across two provinces almost equals the iron line, and it has held so far...
Yep, my mistake. I thought the Iron Line started in Norway. Still, considering we have 28 divisions on the Iron Line, 7 more won't make a difference.
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Walks in and pulls out two pistols and points one at each of the two arguing parties.
Your both Blind and arguing like a bunch of French commanders. Now Act Like Soldiers of the Fatherland or be Shot!!!!!!!
Now just open your mouth one more time and I'll send you on a 1st class ticket to Invade Greenland. You can have a rubber boat, two oars and stick of bubble gum. Now Quiet our most honorable Grand Commander (V) has to think and your squabaling is confusing the masses of troops!
Sits down in a chair and keeps an eye on both commanders.
Your both Blind and arguing like a bunch of French commanders. Now Act Like Soldiers of the Fatherland or be Shot!!!!!!!
Now just open your mouth one more time and I'll send you on a 1st class ticket to Invade Greenland. You can have a rubber boat, two oars and stick of bubble gum. Now Quiet our most honorable Grand Commander (V) has to think and your squabaling is confusing the masses of troops!
Sits down in a chair and keeps an eye on both commanders.
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TC Pilot said:
No, but we will get their surplus of steel which is a lot since Sweden doesn't have vast amounts of IC.
TC Pilot said:
if we go easy on them, perhaps by attacking with only one mech, we should be able not to trash them during 3 hours. Perhaps we can soften them up with a little air support 1-2 bombers and lower their org, so they are ready to run when they see us.
TC Pilot said:
The RN can't get into the Baltics because we own København and Malmö. It is completely safe, unless they send in their subs
To the Minister of Propaganda :
Dear sir,
I write to you in the name of my fellow comrades that fight and hold with me the iron line against the evil red tide together with our finnish allies. But there are things that bother almost all of us simple soldiers here and put up fears in us. Rumors have spread that our best commanders are in a great state of indecision and even words of a purge have been heard here at the frontline, so far from home. I am sure those rumors are just lies, spread by the communist propaganda and our generals are well working together to make us crush our enemies. So i would like to ask you for a small favour: Please send us a few words from the Headquarter to crush those silly accusations and rumors and rise the moral of my fellow soldiers here at the northern front! I am sure this will strengthen our will to win even more and make us endure the hard climate a bit better.
Three cheers to our great Commanders !
Three cheers to the hero of murmansk, General gonzo !
Three cheers to our great minister of propaganda !
yours sincerely
Obergefreiter Schultz
P.S. Please send us more bottles of beer, general gonzo keeps smashing the at the wall...
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Dear sir,
I write to you in the name of my fellow comrades that fight and hold with me the iron line against the evil red tide together with our finnish allies. But there are things that bother almost all of us simple soldiers here and put up fears in us. Rumors have spread that our best commanders are in a great state of indecision and even words of a purge have been heard here at the frontline, so far from home. I am sure those rumors are just lies, spread by the communist propaganda and our generals are well working together to make us crush our enemies. So i would like to ask you for a small favour: Please send us a few words from the Headquarter to crush those silly accusations and rumors and rise the moral of my fellow soldiers here at the northern front! I am sure this will strengthen our will to win even more and make us endure the hard climate a bit better.
Three cheers to our great Commanders !
Three cheers to the hero of murmansk, General gonzo !
Three cheers to our great minister of propaganda !
yours sincerely
Obergefreiter Schultz
P.S. Please send us more bottles of beer, general gonzo keeps smashing the at the wall...
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Hot Topic Sweden
Ok. I at first had a real problem with sending troops to take a country that by all rights should be left to work on HOI2. If we do it right we can have all the units and the navy and the pathetic air force. But most important of all is to make sure Johan and his team are not disturbed and that the power is not cut for them.
Lets draw up a plan. When the mechs are built we can review the feasability of the plan relative to what the other fronts are like. If I have to guess we will be up to our ears in Soviets and will not be able to spare the mechs.
As for paratroopers we have 4-6 of them, but no transports. If we did then we could use them and some tac bombers to do most of the work. I would suggest that if the plan is to be put in action that we use the armour from the west front to do the work. 3 Armour (PzIV types) is more than enough and does not rob the East Front of the mechs+AT. Assuming we do it that way then I say go ahead.
Mean while lets crush some Soviets.
Ok. I at first had a real problem with sending troops to take a country that by all rights should be left to work on HOI2.
If we do it right we can have all the units and the navy and the pathetic air force. But most important of all is to make sure Johan and his team are not disturbed and that the power is not cut for them. Lets draw up a plan. When the mechs are built we can review the feasability of the plan relative to what the other fronts are like. If I have to guess we will be up to our ears in Soviets and will not be able to spare the mechs.
As for paratroopers we have 4-6 of them, but no transports.
If we did then we could use them and some tac bombers to do most of the work. I would suggest that if the plan is to be put in action that we use the armour from the west front to do the work. 3 Armour (PzIV types) is more than enough and does not rob the East Front of the mechs+AT. Assuming we do it that way then I say go ahead.Mean while lets crush some Soviets.