Good start date for an Ethiopian game

[Olaus Petrus]

Well yeah, Nubia is always going to be at risk of an instagib as it's in the de jure lands of egypt. The rest of ethiopia isn't though. To hold nubia for any length of time you'll need to severely weaken the caliph of egypt.

Being part of de jure Egypt is seriously hurting Nubia and I'm also one of those who think that it doesn't make sense. It did make sense when all other small kingdoms were titular, but now there's even small fantasy kingdoms. I think Paradox should make Nubia de jure kingdom and it would help a lot. I haven't tried them in 1.08, but in 1.07 I got annoyed when in 5 games in a row Egyptians attacked against me in 1066 and Axum finished the job.

 

[Isaios]

Being part of de jure Egypt is seriously hurting Nubia and I'm also one of those who think that it doesn't make sense. It did make sense when all other small kingdoms were titular, but now there's even small fantasy kingdoms. I think Paradox should make Nubia de jure kingdom and it would help a lot. I haven't tried them in 1.08, but in 1.07 I got annoyed when in 5 games in a row Egyptians attacked against me in 1066 and Axum finished the job.

Thing is, just turning Nubia de Jure (with one Duchy) just makes Egypt take them in ONE Holy War rather than two de Jure wars and a Conquest.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

What I like to do is make Nubia a de jure kingdom consisting of the duchy of Makuria (which I carve out from Aswan and the northernmost Ethiopian duchy) and disable holy wars/jihads between Eastern Christians and Muslims. Seems to help a lot.

 

[Isaios]

What I like to do is make Nubia a de jure kingdom consisting of the duchy of Makuria (which I carve out from Aswan and the northernmost Ethiopian duchy) and disable holy wars/jihads between Eastern Christians and Muslims. Seems to help a lot.

That does help. But unless the AI is very lucky, they're still eaten over time by the Conquest CB. Certainly a better solution. Though I made three de Jure Kingdoms; Nubia, Aksum and Ethiopia. Some sort of Holy Order might be the way to go. That should let them defend themselves at least. (Though then the strait needs be removed.)

 

[unmerged(519337)]

A gamey way to survive as Nubia is to instantly declare war on the Fatimids and then when you inevitably get stomped, use that 10 years of truce time to build yourself up. I've managed to expand enough to restore the Coptic Papacy without having to use save-loads (though that's in large part due to a triple alliance with the ERE and Sicily, Egypt destroying itself in civil war and the arrival of the Mongols) so survival is definitely an option.

 

[Isaios]

A gamey way to survive as Nubia is to instantly declare war on the Fatimids and then when you inevitably get stomped, use that 10 years of truce time to build yourself up. I've managed to expand enough to restore the Coptic Papacy without having to use save-loads (though that's in large part due to a triple alliance with the ERE and Sicily, Egypt destroying itself in civil war and the arrival of the Mongols) so survival is definitely an option.

You know that truces only work one way, right? So YOU'D be penalised for declaring war on Egypt again within 10 years, but THEY'RE entirely free to roflstomp you again the month after.

Survival is possible, but this particular trick does nothing.

 

[unmerged(519337)]

You know that truces only work one way, right? So YOU'D be penalised for declaring war on Egypt again within 10 years, but THEY'RE entirely free to roflstomp you again the month after.

Survival is possible, but this particular trick does nothing.

Oh right, so that prestige loss and money was for nothing? That's a little disheartening, well at least it all worked out for the best I suppose.

 

[Isaios]

Oh right, so that prestige loss and money was for nothing? That's a little disheartening, well at least it all worked out for the best I suppose.

If you survived and prospered, sure I'm going to call it an unorthodox approach though

 

[Olaus Petrus]

Thing is, just turning Nubia de Jure (with one Duchy) just makes Egypt take them in ONE Holy War rather than two de Jure wars and a Conquest.

That's possible, but at least if they didn't have de jure reason to attack the AI wouldn't always DOW in 1066. I also think that Egypt and Nubia should have positive relations at the start of the game, because historically Nubia and Fatimids had friendly relationship. Now you usually don't have enough time to become friend of the Caliph before he declares war against you.