Going from King->Emperor, none of my vassals accept my marriage offers. Anyone else seeing this?

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As the title suggests, after getting my hands on an Emperor-Tier feudal title, none of my vassals are willing to marry my family because they "desire a better non-aggression pact". I never experienced this issue as a King-Tier ruler, but it started immediately after I got my hands on an Emperor-Tier title. Just... wanted to know if anyone else was/wasn't experiencing this issue, or if it is intermittent.
 

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As the title suggests, after getting my hands on an Emperor-Tier feudal title, none of my vassals are willing to marry my family because they "desire a better non-aggression pact". I never experienced this issue as a King-Tier ruler, but it started immediately after I got my hands on an Emperor-Tier title. Just... wanted to know if anyone else was/wasn't experiencing this issue, or if it is intermittent.
i noticed this as a norse tribal emperor going merchant republic. i had more marriage power as a tribal emperor then i do now as a merchant republic because for w/e reason merchant emperor is lesser to a feudal emperor
 

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Playing as a pagan feudal king (Erik the Heathen) and none of my vassals want to marry my daughters for the same reason as you described.

Really annoying because I have 6 daughters and no one outside my realm is my faith.
 

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Playing as a pagan feudal king (Erik the Heathen) and none of my vassals want to marry my daughters for the same reason as you described.

Really annoying because I have 6 daughters and no one outside my realm is my faith.

Hmm, I wonder if the problem is not as universal as I suspected. I was so sure that going from King -> Emperor was the cause of it.
 

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Playing as a pagan feudal king (Erik the Heathen) and none of my vassals want to marry my daughters for the same reason as you described.

Really annoying because I have 6 daughters and no one outside my realm is my faith.

Yes! It is so annoying however i noticed when playing as King of Sweden in the earliest start date that even tho none of my vassals wanted to marry my daughters foreign kings were more than happy to, including catholic king of Pictland and France who ruled over entire west and central europe while i only ruled sweden and denmark and parts of norway.
 

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Yep, can't marry daughters to vassals here either (catholic king of England).
Though the number of +/- modifiers makes it pretty close.

Though you can still invite claimants to your court, matri-marry them to your daughters, push their claims at an opportune time(or just hope they inherit naturally due to the high death rate), and have titles easily fall into your dynasty.
I'm not sure this loophole is actually intended, as the matri-marry window accept button tooltip indicates they shouldn't accept the proposal, but the button itself says they will(and they do)
Makes it super easy to get matri-marriages to cousins and brothers of kings/emperors with either strong, of inheritable weak claims.
 

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Yes! It is so annoying however i noticed when playing as King of Sweden in the earliest start date that even tho none of my vassals wanted to marry my daughters foreign kings were more than happy to, including catholic king of Pictland and France who ruled over entire west and central europe while i only ruled sweden and denmark and parts of norway.
same thats what happened to me so instead of being able to marry within my realm im usually forced into marrying khans or people not my religion that will accept because im pretty sure my current wife is a sunni
 

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I suggest posting a bug report. I think that the whole NAP thing means that your vassals don't actually get much from you - you already protect them and stuff and besides it costs them the ability to form and enter factions.
 

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I suggest posting a bug report. I think that the whole NAP thing means that your vassals don't actually get much from you - you already protect them and stuff and besides it costs them the ability to form and enter factions.
they are free from my aggression :p which as a family who is know for putting vassals in their de jure lands whether they want to or not through bigger army diplomacy is saying quiet a lot. never had any problems with factions because what ive noticed in my time playing is that the AI generally wants its de jure lands anything outside of that is a toss up so i put them there and the realm has been incredibly stable so i would think that not forming/entering factions with me the glorious viking emperor would be a small price to pay to be a part of my dynasty.