Ok, I'll be the first to say it: There was Xbox Game Pass for PC and Steam mentioned in the announcement trailer but there was no mention of GOG. Are we getting Victoria 3 on GOG?
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I doubt it I waited for CK3 on GOG but just bought it today on Steam. Sad to see that they won't support putting their games on GOG recently.
And either way I want to play this game day one so if it's only on Steam then so be it. If they decide to release it on GOG later then I will consider buying it there too.
And either way I want to play this game day one so if it's only on Steam then so be it. If they decide to release it on GOG later then I will consider buying it there too.
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The worst thing is that they never gave any reason why they stopped releasing on GOG out of nowhere. First they didn't put new games there, yes, but that was simply because they were reliant on Steam for multiplayer. Their new titles, which utilize a separate third party multiplayer provider, started appearing on GOG. And then CK3 came out and it just hasn't been released on GOG.
Why?
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Unfortunately, I don't know but it sucks. They made a lot of effort to bring some older games too and then they gave up it seems
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Makes no sense why their new games wouldn't be on GOG. I thought they just recently starting putting their more recent games on there, why the sudden change?
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It's terribly unfortunate. I have all the games I can (CKI, V1, V2, HoI 1-3, Stellaris, I:R, AoW, etc.) on GOG and basically CKII in Steam. I want to support PDX on GOG as much as I can, but for Steam I guess I might wait and see. Who knows? Perhaps when V3 rolls around we'll have good news.
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PDX formally abandoned GOG, permanently, not too long into Crusader Kings II. 99% of the user base was on Steam and maintaining the non-Steam version was consuming unjustified amounts of resources.
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Then how come Stellaris is in there? It is much later than CKII; do you mean CKIII instead?
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No, I mean CK2. Sometime after The Republic they announced they were cutting all future non-Steam support. I actually had CK2 on Gamersgate and they sent us all Steam keys after making the decision.
Maybe they've since moved back to non-Steam platforms. I haven't been following it, to be quite honest.
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I'm not sure why Paradox tends not so untransparent about this. Some games have undisclosed DRM, like how CK2 or HOI4 (maybe others) refuse to load DLC unless you've launched them through Steam at least once; I didn't figure that until asking for tech support here on the forums. I was happy to buy Stellaris through GOG because then you have a guarantee of quality against defects like that.
It came in handy, too, when the Paradox launcher was giving people so many issues--I didn't even notice because I could just run Stellaris straight from the executable.
It came in handy, too, when the Paradox launcher was giving people so many issues--I didn't even notice because I could just run Stellaris straight from the executable.
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Having a GOG release would be a huge boon and would definitely increase my willingness to buy their games off-sale
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theres always the obvious reasons: refunds and drm.
And ofcourse the access media-steam-e-something platforms that hate competition and are crossowned with the same owners on top and thus favoring each other and attacking those not part of the cartell of their selfpresumed captive market. Paradox iirc wasnt a part.. but that may have changed. Dunno.
And ofcourse the access media-steam-e-something platforms that hate competition and are crossowned with the same owners on top and thus favoring each other and attacking those not part of the cartell of their selfpresumed captive market. Paradox iirc wasnt a part.. but that may have changed. Dunno.
That wasn't GOG. CK 2 was available on only Steam and gamersgate and it was the gamersgate version they stopped supporting. See this thread: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...s-ii-steam-and-gg-versions-the-future.736049/
They have released games on GOG after that announcement (They have Stellaris for example). The reason for Paradox going steam only for a while was due to them using steamworks as their multiplayer service (something that obviously no longer applies since they also release their stuff on the non-steam xbox game pass)
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Imperator is on GOG. Things change. In this case, twice, but the second time with no official word.
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Could you elaborate? I thought their games are generally DRM free and the Steam page doesn't dispute that. If CK3 has DRM, it would explain a lot and bring me closure.
(I am still holding out for a GOG release. Paradox, if you can hear this...)
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I bought both Stellaris and Imperator:Rome on GOG over the last year or two, but they don't sell EU4, CK2, CK3, or HOI4 (not that I have an interest in what HOI4 turned into). If V3 is Steam-only, that's one more Paradox game I can't play.
As said, Paradox stopped selling games via GamersGate, which is where I got HOI3 and at least one of the expansions for it. Note that the GG base game download works fine with an Amazon expansion. I've also had no problem mixing GOG games and expansions with GG or Amazon downloads, or with the base Victoria 2 game from CD (at least until Windows 10 came out, and did not support the on-disc DRM). Steam has always been the "does not play well with others" exception, and will not work with any other source.
I'm REALLY hoping that GOG or some other service outside of Steam is a viable option for purchase, otherwise it's one less sale for Paradox.
As said, Paradox stopped selling games via GamersGate, which is where I got HOI3 and at least one of the expansions for it. Note that the GG base game download works fine with an Amazon expansion. I've also had no problem mixing GOG games and expansions with GG or Amazon downloads, or with the base Victoria 2 game from CD (at least until Windows 10 came out, and did not support the on-disc DRM). Steam has always been the "does not play well with others" exception, and will not work with any other source.
I'm REALLY hoping that GOG or some other service outside of Steam is a viable option for purchase, otherwise it's one less sale for Paradox.
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Steam is itself a form of DRM. PDX games on Steam may not have any additional form of DRM, but if they are in that platform, Steam itself makes sure that it will query for a valid key before allowing the game to run.
Regarding V3 coming out for non-Steam platforms, our best bet is hoping that there will be an actual console version. This will necessitate the code base not to rely exclusively on Steam services, and that will allow the game to be offered on other platforms even for the PC.
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Steam is only necessary to install PDS games. Not to run them. At least that was the case with the older PDS games on Steam.
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Not at all; whenever CKII updated, I had to run it through the Steam launcher, or all the DLCs would be disabled complaining about keys. Once I had opened the app through Steam, I could close it and open it again running the PDX launcher executable directly. And the Steam overlay itself mentioned the eventual need of entering keys for the addons, though it seems that it has always been able to query Steam without my intervention.
Now, if older PDS games like HoI 3 and V2 can launch without this check, that is probably the biggest reason why we can see them in GOG.com and not CKII. Regardless, I have no other words for this behaviour of CKII than "Digital Rights Management."
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