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Will wait until this comes out on a DRM free site like Gog.com.
I doubt that will happen anytime soon. The Multiplayer System in particular acts as a DRM. And a quite effective one at that.
There is no local lan mode, so you would be forced to play Singleplayer only.

Not to mention the issues of keeping it updated. Realising a update for one installation? Annoying enough. Realising an update for any of 20 Installations (main gaim + all the DLC's)? Yeah, not so good without a Update Client like Galaxy.
 

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This feels like a stupid question, but what DRM are we talking about? The closest thing to a DRM I'm aware of is that you (kinda) need to have Steam, and there's a CD key required to play online. Oh, and you need to register the game to make full use of this forum.
 

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This feels like a stupid question, but what DRM are we talking about? The closest thing to a DRM I'm aware of is that you (kinda) need to have Steam, and there's a CD key required to play online. Oh, and you need to register the game to make full use of this forum.
That should just about cover it. Paradox titles by themselves has never had any DRM as i can recall (at least the internally developed games). My understanding is that they still dont, and that their distribution platform (Steam) acts as the DRM.
 

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Will wait until this comes out on a DRM free site like Gog.com.

Just buy directly from Paradox, I am sure if anything ever happened to steam they would not abandon their fans
 

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Just buy directly from Paradox, I am sure if anything ever happened to steam they would not abandon their fans

There is currently a sale on Stellaris stuff bought directly from Paradox, but no sale on Steam. I was about to ask 'is this compatible with a Steam installation' but then realized that buying from Paradox just means that they send you a steam key (and more of the money you spend goes to Paradox themselves).

Time to get me some plantoids.
 

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This feels like a stupid question, but what DRM are we talking about? The closest thing to a DRM I'm aware of is that you (kinda) need to have Steam, and there's a CD key required to play online. Oh, and you need to register the game to make full use of this forum.

That should just about cover it. Paradox titles by themselves has never had any DRM as i can recall (at least the internally developed games). My understanding is that they still dont, and that their distribution platform (Steam) acts as the DRM.
Steam itself is a DRM. Indeed being DRM is what it gives to the game developers. Pretty good DRM too (it will cache wich games you can play, so you do not need to be always on).

Also the Multiplayer System of Steallris is a pretty strong DRM. All games must be negotiated via the Paradox Central Servers. While a nessesity in the age of 2+ layers of NAT, it also allows Paradox to check if someone can play the game there and then.
 

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There is currently a sale on Stellaris stuff bought directly from Paradox, but no sale on Steam. I was about to ask 'is this compatible with a Steam installation' but then realized that buying from Paradox just means that they send you a steam key (and more of the money you spend goes to Paradox themselves).

Time to get me some plantoids.
If you link your Paradox account to your Steam account you don't need to bother with keys. What you buy will appear in your Steam launcher. You can then activate the new products via your Paradox account.
 

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Just buy directly from Paradox, I am sure if anything ever happened to steam they would not abandon their fans

In fact, Gamersgate was somewhat abandoned by Paradox in favor of Steam. All of my purchases transferred over to Steam without any issue.

They are good about this kind of support. They really only use Steam to enforce patches.

There is also no DRM that I am aware of, unless you count being logged into Steam for achievements. As far as I know, you only need Steam for the initial install.
 

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There is currently a sale on Stellaris stuff bought directly from Paradox, but no sale on Steam. I was about to ask 'is this compatible with a Steam installation' but then realized that buying from Paradox just means that they send you a steam key (and more of the money you spend goes to Paradox themselves).

Time to get me some plantoids.
While I'm asking questions, anyone know why the sales are sometimes only on the Paradox site and not on Steam? Is it to encourage people to hang out on the forums or visit the web site?