Götterdämmerung 2 - The Wrath of the Boer-Roer

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Edited scenario:

• Deleted admiral Drake, since overlap with explorer Drake
• Gave Genoa cookies (shipyard, treasury, army, fleet)
• Upgraded tech of Sweden and Palatinat
• Slept Spanish bankruptcy event

get it here

 

[Aladar]

Please upload it to stats

 

[admiral drake]

Edited scenario:

• Deleted admiral Drake, since overlap with explorer Drake
• Gave Genoa cookies (shipyard, treasury, army, fleet)
• Upgraded tech of Sweden and Palatinat
• Slept Spanish bankruptcy event

get it here

genoa is stil lacking cores
genoa also starts with 0merchants 0diplomats 0colonists 0religious dudes

 

[King John]

Poland also currently starts at 1 infra. Russia OTOH is at 3 infra, more than anyone else, is that intentional? And Genoa has 4 trade, 4 infra. Perhaps thats appropriate, if you assume that they'll remain really small and insignificant, but I'm not so sure that thats the case. I see it as just another Holland or Portugal.

 

[admiral drake]

Poland also currently starts at 1 infra. Russia OTOH is at 3 infra, more than anyone else, is that intentional? And Genoa has 4 trade, 4 infra. Perhaps thats appropriate, if you assume that they'll remain really small and insignificant, but I'm not so sure that thats the case. I see it as just another Holland or Portugal.

in the edited save genoas tech is down to same as venice iirc

 

[Tonioz]

were historical leaders edited ?
Prussian and Austrian ones is most important question.
Russian ones according this thread http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233505 would be fine too.

It is important to finish before roster.

 

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Please upload it to stats

It's not 100% finished yet

 

[unmerged(18425)]

were historical leaders edited ?
Prussian and Austrian ones is most important question.
Russian ones according this thread http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233505 would be fine too.

It is important to finish before roster.

I said a while ago that I would adop the AGCEEP leaders instead of the vanilla ones for this campaign, because those have in many cases more correct historical start and death dates. This also would save me a lot of work.

When Russia is formed, I will give them the AGCEEP leaders too. Same with Prussia and Netherlands.

Besides, last post in the Russian bug thread is 'So, I guess we still haven't an agreement on the Russians?'

 

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Genoa will get the following cores:

Genoa, Liguria, Piedmonte, Sardinia, Corsica & Sicily. (All based on the old Republic of Genoa )

They also will get some diplomats, merchants, colonists and inquisitors.

 

[King John]

So far nobody has had the palatinate as one of their choices. Just Robertus and PJL are left to state their preferences. Would anyone not mind playing the palatinate?

 

[Tonioz]

Besides, last post in the Russian bug thread is 'So, I guess we still haven't an agreement on the Russians?'

FAL, you were and are still very dull. You cycled to yourself
I`m ready to implement edits.

 

[Tonioz]

Palatinat with 3 provinces with Austria in NL, Bavaria with good starting leader and 5 provs BRA is really not a first choice :rofl:

 

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FAL, you were and are still very dull. You cycled to yourself
I`m ready to implement edits.

I cycled to myself?

I don't want those Russians changes in the leader file if there is no consensus about it, but I can agree with changing Ushakov to a better leader

 

[Aladar]

I vote for Tonio in Genoa or Palatinat

 

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I vote for Tonio in Genoa or Palatinat

Daniel in the Palintat and Tonio in Genoa

 

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If smn won't play, Palatinat prolly won't have a player.

 

[Tonioz]

Besides, last post in the Russian bug thread is 'So, I guess we still haven't an agreement on the Russians?'

cycle, FAL, cycle

Suggest:
ID 09204 "Fyodor Ushakov", 1775-1807, 6-5-5.
ID 09160 "Danilo Kholmski", 1460-1493, 4-2-4. (Muscowy leader)
ID 09229 "Mikhail Kutuzov", 1787-28 April 1813, 6-4-2.
ID 09230 "Petr Bagration", 1799-12 September 1812, 3-5-3-2
ID 09206 "Alexey Orlov", 1768-1775, 3-3-3.

 

[Tonioz]

I vote for Tonio in Genoa or Palatinat

Genoa ? Good ability to hypertech on 2 provs :rofl:

 

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Suggest:
ID 09204 "Fyodor Ushakov", 1775-1807, 6-5-5.
ID 09160 "Danilo Kholmski", 1460-1493, 4-2-4. (Muscowy leader)
ID 09229 "Mikhail Kutuzov", 1787-28 April 1813, 6-4-2.
ID 09230 "Petr Bagration", 1799-12 September 1812, 3-5-3-2
ID 09206 "Alexey Orlov", 1768-1775, 3-3-3.

Tonio, the point was that there was a lot of disagreement about those proposed stats in the bug thread.

But fair enough, if no one here objects, then I give permission to you to edit those leaders.

 

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Genoa ? Good ability to hypertech on 2 provs :rofl:

Exactly, I volunteer for Genoa! I LOVE hyperteching!