Well aren't you considerate?Aladar said:Since Poland will probably annex you before summertime ends, you don't have to worry
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Its only because we Italians are less greedy than northern heretics, its clear that the same issues where at stake. Only the Italians choose wisely.Aladar said:There is a link to stats in post 1. Worked about better than a player in Sweden & Denmark
edit: I probably need a sub this sunday, PLEASE icq/pm me if you are able
Seen said:
I'm not quite sure that's correct. While Sweden did try to take out Denmark, the italians now control 5 faroff CoT's. 4 conquered and 1 spawned. So perhaps they are a tad more greedy than the swedes.
Now you talk about us like we are one nationAladar said:
And now you messure greed of not annexing an european neighbour but having 2.5 cots far away ? lol
Well greed is hard to measure as it's a matter of perception. For some annexing the neighbor is greed, for others it's having a lot of juicy CoTs. Personally i just wanna rule the world - some might called that greed others just think i'm crazy. Just ask my mom
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BurningEGO said:Seems like our dear Ear went on a rampage against poor Spain. Where was Tonio to aid Spain from its doom!
I was in Prague
Getting first icq communications
My quality sub got connection problems and was replaced by random sub, who it seems to me, didn`t have such good commanding.
As far as i understand, KJ and Ear had bad properties of my random sub, as it seems to me.
That was not my instructions to brake NAP with France. It was instruction for intervention against side nations, who would make cooperative actions with FRA, for example OE. Perhaps Deil interpretated me a bit wrong, but i didn`t definetely want to break NAP with France. Though maybe those situation (like this Spain) doesn`t look normal indeed.
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Chubby, thanks for subbing. I got bad impression at first look, but you did your work well with high WE and so on.
After Poland informed they are going to take Ukraine from Russia, Austria made measures to regulate this conflict.
After all, we promise Joohoo our help, but recommended to sell Ukraine, meaning Poland won`t dow neigher of us/join alliances/sign wp and so on (no tricks for war, it meant). I insisted that Joohoo would sign such deal.
KJ told by himself he wants only Ukraine and nothing else.
Now i see that Poland bought Ukraine and force-made Russia vassal and take Breslau from Austria. How that happened ?
After all, we promise Joohoo our help, but recommended to sell Ukraine, meaning Poland won`t dow neigher of us/join alliances/sign wp and so on (no tricks for war, it meant). I insisted that Joohoo would sign such deal.
KJ told by himself he wants only Ukraine and nothing else.
Now i see that Poland bought Ukraine and force-made Russia vassal and take Breslau from Austria. How that happened ?
Chubby, you formed totally infantry army right now. Did you raise cavalry by yourself ?
I have more questions please:
- what happened with Russia-Sweden war ?
- how was the war Austria vs OE+POL started ?
- FAL told by himself he is not going to press the sub and leave Hungarian question until my returning. But i see now that Wallachia is lost 1 prov to OE. OE got WP, while it was successful war vs them (+38WS when Deil left he reported)
Austria could dipvassalize Wallachia next month in 1585. I left to Deil instructions not to do it, specially because FAL told to postponing of the question.
- what happened with Russia-Sweden war ?
- how was the war Austria vs OE+POL started ?
- FAL told by himself he is not going to press the sub and leave Hungarian question until my returning. But i see now that Wallachia is lost 1 prov to OE. OE got WP, while it was successful war vs them (+38WS when Deil left he reported)
Austria could dipvassalize Wallachia next month in 1585. I left to Deil instructions not to do it, specially because FAL told to postponing of the question.
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And please tell who lost Mauson, 4-2-4 (4-3-5 with settings) Austrian general, who lived until 1633 ?
And who made +1offensive click ?
And who made +1offensive click ?
eehhh.... I will try to answere some of these questions, but I wrote a status report for you. If you havnt already read it, please do so now.....POST
No I focused on infantry throughout the game, well the 12 years that I played.
I lost Maw'son, died fighting the Poles, Freidel also died against them. Menicossa & Motoori were hunted down by Zygmunt and his cavalry detachment. I simply saw them too late to get them to safety. Tonio then died on the march. Interestingly I only had Dooling against the French.
I clicked +1 Off. not knowing where you wanted your sliders. It seemed the only obvious choice to make.....ofc maybe you think the morale boost is not worth the increase in artillery and fortress cost. In which case I'm sorry.
I dont know about your other questions.
Tonioz said:
No I focused on infantry throughout the game, well the 12 years that I played.
Tonioz said:
I lost Maw'son, died fighting the Poles, Freidel also died against them. Menicossa & Motoori were hunted down by Zygmunt and his cavalry detachment. I simply saw them too late to get them to safety. Tonio then died on the march. Interestingly I only had Dooling against the French.
I clicked +1 Off. not knowing where you wanted your sliders. It seemed the only obvious choice to make.....ofc maybe you think the morale boost is not worth the increase in artillery and fortress cost. In which case I'm sorry.
I dont know about your other questions.
Chubby, thanks once more, i`ve read your report after my first comments and icq impressions.
Anyway please bear in mind for future, that cavalry is main force at this ages, and Austria has pretty cheap cavalry specially for that
Anyway please bear in mind for future, that cavalry is main force at this ages, and Austria has pretty cheap cavalry specially for that
Well, according talks with Joohoo.
In 1585 KJ clearly informed he has only claim on Russia as Ukraine. That means he (should) sign treaty with Russia, if Russia agrees to cede Ukraine. Joohoo failed to contact KJ two days by himself before my departure, so i clearly left to him my saying, that i`m not able to take part in 3-sides treaty, but asked to sign non-aggression of Poland to us, because according KJ he doesn`t need anything else.
Joohoo failed to sign formal agreement and got payment from KJ as 2 on 1 when he was in 4th war in Sweden, which ended 4th time as kicking Russia by number of sides. I specially asked Joohoo for such agreement expecting from KJ exactly such moves, like he did. I hope that will be good expierence for Joohoo to understand the way of actions with John in future
Well, as to me, Austria is dissapointed the way Poland chose for unbalancing situation more, specially after our talks, Austrian efforts to please Poland with Ukraine, and Austria refusion to make demands to Poland in pre-1585 winning war of Austria vs OE+Poland.
In 1585 KJ clearly informed he has only claim on Russia as Ukraine. That means he (should) sign treaty with Russia, if Russia agrees to cede Ukraine. Joohoo failed to contact KJ two days by himself before my departure, so i clearly left to him my saying, that i`m not able to take part in 3-sides treaty, but asked to sign non-aggression of Poland to us, because according KJ he doesn`t need anything else.
Joohoo failed to sign formal agreement and got payment from KJ as 2 on 1 when he was in 4th war in Sweden, which ended 4th time as kicking Russia by number of sides. I specially asked Joohoo for such agreement expecting from KJ exactly such moves, like he did. I hope that will be good expierence for Joohoo to understand the way of actions with John in future
Well, as to me, Austria is dissapointed the way Poland chose for unbalancing situation more, specially after our talks, Austrian efforts to please Poland with Ukraine, and Austria refusion to make demands to Poland in pre-1585 winning war of Austria vs OE+Poland.
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Tonioz said:
When Russia was dowed by Poland, Sweden dowed as well and took Estonia.
When France told me Austria broke a NAP, I dowed Austria. Fought a bit with Deil and later papa. Poland dowed Austria later when Spain signed peace with England.
At that point it was OE + Poland versus Austria and France versus Spain.
I wouldn't have attacked your sub if he would stay peaceful, as being told at ICQ.
But Deil broke a NAP with France (we paused the game and asked Deil if he intentionally broke a NAP, which he confirmed), so the deal to stay peaceful because you were subbed was off.
I guess there was a misunderstanding with your instructions to Deil?
I was able to sign WP because Austria had a rough time versus Poland as well.
FAL said:
I don`t think so. I clearly say Deil that i signed NAP with France to avoid more risk with gangbang on sub. It was told that Austria could assist Spain in case of Spain-France war in case if side country attacks Spain. Assist vs side country, not France. First of all, it was meant of course OE, the most intervention country
At second it was instructions, that relations with Poland should be peaceful, and do not dipvassalize Walachia, because of certain relations with OE.
Deil couldn`t do worse than breaking NAP with France to help Spain, which seemed to aim to self-collapse and, so Austria got three powerful enemies around.
Well, i feel pain of Portugal, who was making most efforts to keep the situation balanced, but Denmark and Spain collapse own goverments, while Portugal pays for everything.
FAL said:
Hard to have good times without cavalry
Spain and Russia, please remember:
As a vassal :
I am against doing province swap edits, but since the current peace deal between France and Spain will require a long period of in-game deals which can be severly exploited by other powers, I have decided to edit the peace deal in. The risk that simulteanously would be exploited is too large.
This will not mean I will edit simple province swaps deals in the future. Such deals can, and should, perfectly be done in-game.
As a vassal :
- You cannot enter any other alliance than that of your overlord.
- You must accept a proposal of TA/MA from your overlord.
- You are not allowed to start any wars without permission of your overlord
- You are *not* required to dow someone at the command of your overlord, send him cash at his command or generally help your overlord if *he* is the agressor in a war.
I am against doing province swap edits, but since the current peace deal between France and Spain will require a long period of in-game deals which can be severly exploited by other powers, I have decided to edit the peace deal in. The risk that simulteanously would be exploited is too large.
This will not mean I will edit simple province swaps deals in the future. Such deals can, and should, perfectly be done in-game.