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Did Poland actually prosecute the war against Courland at all? You almost make it sound as is nothing at all happened.

Not really. A few battles were fought and Courland paid 46 ducats for peace. Rather annoying, because I wanted it to end so I could start kicking some Buriat #$% ;)

As for Baikov, well, that's what happens when one exceeds one's remit ;)

Your decision was very wise, as always, your majesty. :D
 

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Finally you are picking up that coat off the floor, as it were. You know who it all belongs to, don't you? ;)
 

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[coz: Let the Buriat bleed first. And last. And all through the middle. ;) ]

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Three Kings From the East (Part III)

Although the affairs of state required Czar Sergei to remain in Novgorod, he did send this message to the army gathered in Sibir:

"Today you set out for the east. God's protection be on you all! Siberia is Russian by right, from the moment Timofeyevich and Mansurov set foot there. Buriat and Amuria shall, by your bravery and dedication be returned to Mother Russia. May all of you fulfill your potential as soldiers of Russia, of the Czar, and of God!"

The journey to the Russian outpost of Bratsk on the Buriat border was difficult. Indeed, it was August of 1661 before the whole army arrived. But now the Russians, led by Peter Hurd made their way across the Yenisey, the border between Near and Far Siberia. Once across, the army made its way through the very sparsely populated areas with little trouble. It was along the Selenga that the main Buriat land was located.

On 14 December Hurd met a Buryat army outside the city of Babuskin. The army was pushed aside with little difficulty. However, the Buryat attacked again. Better used to Siberian winter warfare, they sent Hurd back over the mountains. Hurd regrouped and attacked again in April 1662. He had the whole of the Buriat lands west of the Selenga secured by the end of May, and crossed the Selenga in early June. After several battles and a siege which lasted into January of 1663, Ulan Ude was conquered.

The winter was again being cruel, however, and the Buriat could reenforce their armies much faster than the Russians. This slowed down the pace of conquest considerably. Tchita and Kalakhan held out for all of 1663.

In January of 1664, just after Tchita fell to Hurd, the Grand Northern Alliance finally broke apart. None of the alliance members wished to rejoin. Czar Sergei was content to ally himself with Georgia.

Kalakhan was an extremely difficult area to conquer. The city held out for another year, falling only in January 1665. But by now only the capital city of Buryat was left unconquered.

The war was coming close to the end, and both sides knew it. The battle for Buryat became a running campaign, both sides remaining very mobile. Wangshugh Khan led his cavalry around Hurd's armies, knowing that he couldn't attack them directly. Hurd attempted to corner him with his less mobile but more powerful infantry. Finally, Wangshugh was caught within the city of Buryat in October. The Mongols fought bravely; they surrendered only when hip-deep in Lake Baikal. Wangshugh was brought to Bratsk in chains and forced to sign what was called the "Eternal Peace." His Khanate was destroyed.

Ivan II Amrikov, who had succeded his father Mikhail in 1660, begged Czar Sergei for mercy. Sergei, knowing that reconciliation was better that massacare, allowed the traitors in Amur to survive as vassals. In front of cheering crowds, on 1 November 1665 the Czar (taking most of the credit on himself, of course) announced that the reconquest of Siberia was complete. Russia had drawn itself out of another dark time.
 
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Three cheers for the mighty victor!!! That must have been cold for those fellas in Lake Baikal! Serves them right for trying to stand storng against Mother Russia!! Now what you gonna do with all that gold?
 

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Top work done there by all concerned ;)
 

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The Great Reaction

Sergei stood colossus-like as the undisputed master of the region. On 5 March 1667, he invited Amur into an alliance, completing the reconciliation.

However, things began to slowly go wrong. At first, the clergy grew unhappy at reforms Sergei made encouraging the pursuit of science. Sergei ignored them, however, as he knew that Russia needed to advance technologically. "We are a light to the world," he said, "let us not allow obscurantism to dim it." The clergy didn't listen, however. Obscurantism grew during 1668, and although it was brought under control, it was still underneath, waiting to be released.

Soon after the obscurant clergy were dealt with, corruption scandals rocked the government. Sergei dealt with them strictly, and the people hailed it as a strong and necessary response. But those who lost from this action added to Sergei's enemies.

In 1672 Jan Sobieski, the King of Poland, began reforming the country. He started with an army reform, and amazingly nobody in the Sejm objected (which would have killed the reforms immediately). Russia and Austria began to look a little closer, as a resurgent Poland was a danger to them. Sobieski realized that continuing his reforms would be dangerous, and wisely kept quiet. The pressure was released.

The pressure in Russia, however, was still slowly building. Sergei died in February of 1676, and his son Mikhail was elected Czar. The Buryat, although some were beginning to embrace the Christian faith, were beginning to revolt again. Mikhail continued his father's innovative reforms, especially in the administration of Russia. But he made a severe mistake doing so.

For the first four years it went well. The reforms made the government more streamlined. But the Czar began tampering with the power of the nobility. The nobles had lost much power in Russia and they were quite defensive about what they had left. The Duma, in a proposal by Mikhail, abolished the Mestnichestvo system in June 1680. While the common people applauded it, saying that it would finally ensure equal opportunity for government posts, the nobles were furious. One of their last few powers had been taken away. Stability began to fall as the nobles began considering open rebellion.

Mikhail panicked. He began accusing nobles of planning rebellion, in an attempt to stop it before it started. But many he accused were innocent, and it served only to do exactly what he had feared. The nobles took up arms, and many of the people followed them, afraid that Mikhail was trying to become an absolute ruler. The rebellions were focused in the steppes, as those were the last places the nobles had kept their lands. But there were revolts across the empire. Mikhail was leading his army against one of these revolts in Tula when, on 28 April 1682 he was killed in battle. The battle was won, but a new Czar would need to be elected.

The Romanovs reappeared then. Peter Romanov, the direct heir of Mikhail Romanov, was elected. He wanted his country to become more like Europe, to become part of Europe. His reforms were more fair and gradual. The nobles were given amnesty if they laid down their arms, and they did. Had Peter not come when he did, Russia would likely have been in ruins.
 

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So Peter the Great enters the scene. You have to feel sorry for the nobility in a way - unable to see that their fight to retain their exclusive priviliges is already lost. Well, perhaps not too much.

I wonder where Peter will go stomping?
 

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Very nice, Judas....Peter should allow you to be able to do more of the things you wish. His stats are pretty good, aren't they?
 

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It's a never ending battle of ups and downs, isn't it? But good times lay ahead of you I suspect. I look forward to it.
 

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[stnylan: They're lost.
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coz1: Ups and downs, ups and downs... it's making me seasick, and I don't even have a navy! :D ]

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Peter the Great?

Peter knew he had to act quickly. Russia, for all its innovation and openness, was still far behind the Europeans in technology and science. Peter, even more than other Russians, was enamoured with Europe and its wonders. He even made plans for a "window to the west", the city of St. Petersburg at the mouth of the Neva. The city was built, but Novgorod was so successful that it never got anywhere; and the cost of moving the capital was too high. Peter's "window" grew foggy.

Peter was undeterred, however, and invited Ivan Amrikov of Amur to join him in a Great Embassy across Europe. Plans were temporarily halted, however, when Norway declared war on Sweden, then Crimea declared war on Georgia. The Czar and his vassal remained to direct the war.

Peter sent a small detachment of cavalry to hold northern Norway. They did their job admirably, retreating into Russian territory every winter to ensure good supply.

Peter led the main Russian army south to Crimea. Peter went from fortress to fortress, reducing them with great skill and minimal loss of life. Despite a Crimean offensive against Astrakhan, Peter had no difficulty.

In the final stages of the war, Ivan recieved an ambassador from China, who proposed negotiations at Nerchiinsk. Peter sent his own ambassador. The treaty was immediately rejected by both the Russians and Amur, and the Chinese ambassador left home and stated his displeasure to the equally displeased Emperor.

Peter ignored the embassy, and the incident went into the background. Peter had just completed the war with Crimea, taking Kalmuk and recieving nominal control over Daghestan. There, he encouraged the Khanate of Ghazi-Ghumuq, who became the Russian government in the area.

Peter considered the war with Norway of little consequence and went on the Great Embassy in 1689. He visited with Isaac Newton and William of Orange in England; the shipyards of Holland; Vauban's fortifications in France; the Prussian army in Berlin. Peter took detailed notes, making sure to find out everything that could be of use in Russia. Ivan Amrikov went among the people, looking for those in similar situations as Russians and seeing what they needed and wanted. He gave his findings to Peter, who put them to good use.

Peter's Embassy returned a year and a half after it had left St. Petersburg. He found Russia at war with the Ottomans and Persia. Russian armies were having difficulty making progress. Daghestan was overrun by Persia, and the Russian army barely kept the Ottomans out of Kouban. After a two-year standoff, the war ended with Persia in control of Daghestan and no other changes.

For several years, Peter attempted to make the social and economic changes he had wanted. The army reforms went well, but the social reforms had to wait until a wave of revolts in Buryat died down. His first was to invite Ivan Amrikov to return Amur to Russia, in late 1696.

It would be the last.

As soon as they heard of it, both China and Sweden were afraid of Russia's new reaquisition. China, especially, since Russia now once again bordered them. Sweden was angry since Russia had refused to help them put down revolts in Pommerania and Prussia. The war with Sweden nearly turned into a major war, when Denmark and Poland made moves to join with Russia. But they switched their support away from Russia again, and a Great Northern War was averted.

This was of no consolation to Peter. China rapidly overran Amuria, and Ivan was forced to surrender it to them. Sweden, meanwhile, was making little progress, but forcing a large toll in Russian lives. Eventually, Peter paid a sum to King Karl XII in 1699. Russia soon found that peace was not to be.

Nearly everybody realized that Russia was a weak framework by this time. Russia's long mistreatment of Catholics and Muslims, especially, turned out to haunt him. The Ottomans, as defender of Muslims, invaded again, attacking Kalmuk. Poland and Austria came from the east. Several minor states joined in.

Russian armies generally held their own, but in places the lines were beginning to break. After Peter lost Astrakhan to Persia, he demanded practically dictatorial powers from the Duma on 5 July 1700. With the army supporting him, they were forced to accept.

But the people were too knowledgeable by this time to let something like that go through. General rebellion struck Russia. There was one stand left, the economy. When the rebellions spread, the economy suffered. By November, the economy broke under its own weight, and Russia broke with it. The country degenerated into complete civil war. Foreign nations took small areas and left the rest to wither. And wither it did. Eventually, the Duma, no longer afraid of Peter, dissolved the title of Czar and declared Novgorod independent. Peter managed to save the lands around Moskva. Sweden took the Baltic coast. Crimea reconquered the steppes. The Buryat became independent again, as did Sibir, now much expanded.
 
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That's horrible. I would have thought Peter the Great could have done better than that. What's he great at, I wonder - allowing open revolt and secession? That's quite a twist they've thrown into the historical record...hope it works out in the end - but then it must for this to be a historical record at all, right? God save the Czar, indeed.
 

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Thus the question mark. Things were looking good at first, then I accidentaly hit the BB limit. I was playing on VH at the time, so the result was, as you might imagine, rather painful. Once I started getting my rear end kicked, just add in a few events and voilá--I've got a nasty mess to clean up.

Looks like I'm back in Novgorod. Don't worry, Russia will make a comeback--but you may be surprised at how it happens.
 

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Just got around to reading your story Judas and it's quite good. :cool: I always play on Very Hard just for surprises like this. :D Picking up the pieces can be more fun than most would think. Good luck.

Joe
 

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Yikes! That was awful! A complete and total disaster of nearly epic proportions! You must save mother Russia and get it all back. Great update, but a terrible result. Perhaps you were too stringent against Muslims and Catholics, and perhaps even Protestants which might have been just the thing to cause the domino effect to hit you like an iron hammer.
 

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Ouch! Time to recollect the lost children of Mother Russia I guess. Makes for a great story though... :D
 

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Its a topsy-turvy world sure enough.
 

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[Storey: This AAR has been full of that. Most fun game I've had in a while.
Amric: I was nice to Protestants, but I goofed up by double-crossing Sweden.
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On second thought, I might have been wrong about the reemergence of Russia being in a surprising way. In fact, it makes more sense than Novgorod becoming Russia.]

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Volume V: The Dissolution of the First Empire to the Present Day, 1703-1819

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Novgorod Languishes, Moskva Ascends

After the collapse of Russia, Novgorod turned insular. Innovation was accepted, even foreign innovation, but diplomacy was shunned. The Duma had had enough of the world, and the world didn't care.

Not so with Moskva. Grand Prince Peter (now lowered in dignity by the loss of Russia) continued to work with the rest of the world. They were suspicious of him, especially since they had just destroyed his empire and were afraid he would attempt to backstab them to gain more land. But Peter had learned diplomacy well during his Great Embassy and had also learned humility (or at least the outward appearance of it). Soon the Swedes trusted him enough to join with him in a military alliance.

This left Novgorod in a bad position, with a large Poland to the south and an extremely powerful Sweden-Moskva alliance on both sides. The Republic finally joined with Prussia, and brought into a war against Austria. While Novgorod sat around in a war it had no reason being in, Moskva and Sweden began the First Partition of Poland. Within two years they had stripped Poland of the northeastern portion of Lithuania, about half going to Sweden and the other half to Moskva.

Peter reformed Moskva's army once again, bringing it much closer to the European standard. Novgorod, meanwhile, struggled to maintain the Russian level from 1700. The army was busy putting down rebellions from Unionists in the south, those who wanted Novgorod to join with Moskva. The King of Sweden even went so far as to call the Republic "a ridiculous attempt to go back three hundred years." But all countries respected Novgorod's territory, perhaps just out of pity.

By this point, Novgorod had been completely sealed off from the rest of the world, surrounded by Sweden and Moskva. In the end, it turned out to be a protective shroud, as the two countries, for all they disliked the idea of a republic, realized that it was a perfect example for their ends. Novgorod, without a strong single leader, slowly became a catatonic state.

Peter was succeeded by Catherine I in 1725, who was then succeeded by Peter II and later Anna. It was Anna Romanova who, on 14 September 1733, shocked the world in an amazing announcement:

She declared herself the Czarina, forming once again the Empire of Russia.


[To Moskva, now. Russia is reborn!]
 

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Good ol' Catharine.

Novgorod sounds not dis-similar to Poland now.
 

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  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
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  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
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  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV
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  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
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Poor Novgorod. Tis a pity as the whole plan was to form Russia with her rather than Muscovy. But hey, as long as Russia picks up the coat, all is not lost. Keep it coming, one way or the other. ;)