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Well OK, but 2 things are here. Hatukes forts are being removed while Strom's airbases stay? And you are ignoring his second rule break, with UK giving him forces (If you do reply on my comments reply on them in a full aspect, not just those which you can counter, since if not, its better for you to keep quiet on such matters).
1) See Krediax above.
2) I have already judged "the troop market" and giving free supplies. I dont bother to repeat myself.
3) I reply to those things I want and to things I think need to be answered. I'm sorry I dont have interest and time answer all your childish whining...


EDIT: The only exploit I was against, was the one where the Italy player has used lag trying to smear me some 10 times in a row. Thats more cheating as an exploit, cause an exploit is everything what you can do in normal game terms without bypassing the game engine or breaking the rules.
Oh c'mon :D If ur really this stupid, it shouldn't be difficult to Germany to conq u... But oh, sorry I forgot ur the master of exploits.
 

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(In the game, Strom didn't say that- not that I can remember or have read). But this still leaves us with the share forces issue.
Funny, everyone else happened to notice it. And don't worry about exp forces anymore because the Allies will have their hands full now. If I ever join an alliance, exp forces are not forbitten.

And 0.0 includes only alternative things not written, while Molotov Ribbentrop pact is a rule which is defined and it doesn't state that I may not offer the unholy alliance. I offer it always no matter if play vs human or AI, since no damage is done, if Germany declines it and goes for the normal pact. And thus this makes it an exploit and not a rule brake.
Still it is written that players themselves decide what is ok and what isn't. I wasn't seriously expecting you to think that an unholy alliance would be ok for the balance of the game, but at least now you know that it is not cool. I'll add it to the rules just for you.

The only exploit I was against, was the one where the Italy player has used lag trying to smear me some 10 times in a row. Thats more cheating as an exploit, cause an exploit is everything what you can do in normal game terms without bypassing the game engine or breaking the rules.
Dude, that was an accident. We have wasted way enough time on it and Hebe got his punishment, so could you please finally drop it.


hehehe, even though half the AAR thread is full of arguments, I do like the game that you guys are playing. and I have to say, you played just plain smart Storm. kudos.
Yes, playing with 15 guys (and Delex) can be pretty tough. But I guess it's ok to pass the time like this for the next game. Oh and thanks with China, hopefully I will liberate Manchuria someday. :D
 
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Storm501-

1.OK, I will sell some CAS to japan (for free that is).

2.Hey I cant tell what the reaction will be, before I don't try.

3.Read the context in which the statement was written.

4.You will liberate Manchuria someday, under a communist flag that is :D.

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My point is the same: If you do reply on my comments reply on them in a full aspect, not just those which you can counter, since if not, its better for you to keep quiet on such matters (I didn't read your reply judging it, so it woudnt kill you to post a statment on it once again).

What, have you sunken so low that you cant to anything else then trying to insult me? Your comment doesn't even have anything to do what i have written above.
 

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My point is the same: If you do reply on my comments reply on them in a full aspect, not just those which you can counter, since if not, its better for you to keep quiet on such matters
 

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1. 4.4 : Selling units is forbiden exception done for starting units in a very limited amount.France or ussr selling armies to anyone, Japan selling BB or CV fleet is considered as an exploit. So don't be a lame exploiter Delex.

2. I wrote in the rules now that unholy alliance is forbitten, so Delex-like ppl can understand it.

3. Whatever, I don't want to hear about it again.

4. "Gimme bps." :D
 
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Storm-I was never referring to that rule, but on this one:

NAT CHINA RULES

11.4 : China must not receive any units, supplies or mass resources via trades or negotiations by players This rule overules the first one, since it is nation specific.

Juspedude-Your point its just a copy of mine (Not smart enough to think of your own right). Since its you who doesn't reply on my arguments and not me. The only way for you to somehow stand your ground in a debate, is to reply only on that what you actually can counterfeit and just ignore everything else (In the hope your opponent doesnt notice it). I reply and countrify everything you say. All I can say is grow some brains and get original.
 

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Storm-I was never referring to that rule, but on this one
I don't really see what you are saying here. USSR giving Japan units is an exploit. Too late we noticed that China receiving troops was forbitten, but we voted that it could keep the planes Greg sent.
 
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I don't really see what you are saying here. USSR giving Japan units is an exploit. Too late we noticed that China receiving troops was forbitten, but we voted that it could keep the planes Greg sent.

When did we vote that? Never noticed that voting (If i would remember something as a voting I wouldn't speak about you having his forces). Till your reply I didn't even knew that you had UK forces in your country and have taught you were joking or something.
 

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When did we vote that? Never noticed that voting (If i would remember something as a voting I wouldn't speak about you having his forces). Till your reply I didn't even knew that you had UK forces in your country and have taught you were joking or something.
1. Read Greg's update of the 1st session.

2. Read our previous posts from the last 12 hrs.

3. Ask Hatuke, he said that it was ok.

4. Remember to read the chat ingame.
 

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Juspedude-Your point its just a copy of mine (Not smart enough to think of your own right). Since its you who doesn't reply on my arguments and not me. The only way for you to somehow stand your ground in a debate, is to reply only on that what you actually can counterfeit and just ignore everything else (In the hope your opponent doesnt notice it). I reply and countrify everything you say. All I can say is grow some brains and get original.
Oh I so love u Delex, marry me! :rofl:

A) U think ur right (or just very desperate)
b) Ur speaking about brains:rofl: This is like a woman talking about balls..
 
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juspedude-Well you don't have neither of both:rofl::rofl::rofl:.

Storm501-It couldn't be the in game chat, cause their i didn't see it. But his reply does state that he has given you airplanes (I didn't notice that cause I taught those were just some unimportant deals). But if you are making the rules to break them there is no point in having the rules. Most of the people voted for you receiving the airforces cause it was out of their personal interest (But i don't know why the axis should vote for it and i also don't remember to be participating).

But anyway even if you don't know that the action you have conducted is against the rules, its still against the rules and it would have to be punished (If you can ignore the Northern China issue, I can ignore this rule braking).
 

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Storm501-It couldn't be the in game chat cause their i didn't see it.
It was in the game chat, coz everyone else saw it. We were counting votes and I was asking all the time immediately when the session began. So you can only blame yourself and your comp. ;)

But anyway even if you don't know that the action you have conducted is against the rules, its still against the rules and it would have to be punished (If you can ignore the Northern China issue, I can ignore this rule braking).
100% of our rulebreakings so far have been pure accidents, althrough you don't believe in accidents here. When Greg offered the planes, I asked him was it ok, and he said it was. Right after the session, we noticed from the rules that it was wrong (talked about it in the AAR thread). I mentioned it again in the MP thread, asking what I should do (which you or your comp didn't notice again). And when the 2nd session began, I asked that do I send the planes back to Greg. And ppl and Hatuke said nah, Hatuke wants challenge, so I kept them till -39, althrough I only did 2-5 missions.

It's not my problem if you believe in the rules so literally that you can't understand any expections. I acted with the best of my abilities here and did nothing wrong, unlike you who just offered the unholy alliance without asking first. So say what you say, but me and the players don't see this as a rulebreak.

On the other hand you seem to be ok with Hatuke building extra forts and saving supplies. But even though I'm China, I'm not punishing him either because they were accidents. I might want to do something to balance the puppet issue, but I'll get back to it later.


Oh and now I solved the mystery of your postcount Delex. I wondered how can a guy like you have 3k posts. But looks like you get about 30 posts per debate and if you had 100 debates, that makes 3k posts, hurrah! :D


Why is it that you guys dont kiss and make up, or at least take these discussions in the topic specifically designated for this?
Well, we have our MP thread and these angry debates have done their part in there too. But because only 2-3 guys out of 15 update the AAR, I guess some game debates are a part of this too. The readers can see the real problems in the game. And what other AAR can offer drama like this? (Even in Firestorm's AAR he is ok that Cools stabbed him in the back and joined the Axis, no drama between players :D)
 
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Freaking good show China. Keep up the strat bombing and shave a few more IC off the Japs, screwing with their tech program is sure to piss them off to no end :D.
 

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Wait what's all this talk about CAS? I thought ground bombing was forbidden in this game? If ground bombing was allowed I would have EASILY won the SCW. Nat spains armoured divs were always on the move and he only had 1-2 fighters which were always grounded. I've played enough times to know that a few weeks of bombing a few moving divisions can completely wipe them out.

Interdiction was useless against his retreating divs but like I said if I could have ground bombed them he wouldn't have an army left whenever he lost a battle.
 

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Freaking good show China. Keep up the strat bombing and shave a few more IC off the Japs, screwing with their tech program is sure to piss them off to no end :D.
Haha, yea. At least the US can land in Tokyo easily since the Japanese navy is probably the same as in -36. :D


Wait what's all this talk about CAS? I thought ground bombing was forbidden in this game? If ground bombing was allowed I would have EASILY won the SCW. Nat spains armoured divs were always on the move and he only had 1-2 fighters which were always grounded. I've played enough times to know that a few weeks of bombing a few moving divisions can completely wipe them out.

Interdiction was useless against his retreating divs but like I said if I could have ground bombed them he wouldn't have an army left whenever he lost a battle.
We did forbit it in our first game, but allowed it again when we tried WiF before this game. Ground bombing wasn't forbitten in the rules either when we began. I'm really sorry if you didn't know and if it really affected the SCW. We really thought you knew and all. Didn't Cawx do any ground bombing, so you didn't notice?

Well, in this situation I can't do anything else than to wish you good luck with the Romanian bombers and have fun destroying Delex's Red Army. :)
 
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