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Then I have no choice than to ally with Germany to get fighters.

Sure you can ally them, but I doubt Germany will have any airforce to spend with my massive production capabilities and even if, I think Japans airforce can pretty much kick the ass off your airforce. And yes if you ally japan you automatically take Japans role in the Chinese conflict, that means that you first have to capture India, before you can attack me.

 

[Beladriel]

President of Argentina finds Soviet Union quiet annoying. President supports China, because it's more fun when China wins.

 

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President of Argentina finds Soviet Union quiet annoying. President supports China, because it's more fun when China wins.

President of Argentina was pretty much kidnapped by the NKVD in the last session (Not to mention that the commie friends in Brazil have smeared Argentina some 5 times).

 

[unmerged(115311)]

awesome play by china there, but the japanese player can still win. he just needs to get his airforce act together, forget about all that shipbuilding. more important to build large numbers of planes. air superiority, infra bombing, org bombing, ground movement and attacking, ground attacking with planes on retreating units. you can do it!

Japan could do it, but is it worth to go deep in to China to mess stuff up? Every IC that he uses on his land army and airforce is away from his navy. US won't have a hard battle ahead. China can only offer him a few points of IC and one hell of a fight. So it is a black hole sucking all his IC.

while you still have a production edge over china. and once the show in europe start, the europeans won't be able to help china out anymore. but it means you have to do it before america shows up.

Ahem, the Europeans aren't helping me anymore. They only sent some supplies, 3 fighters and 3 tacs. China is using 30 IC a day on supply production and still holding.

Sure you can ally them, but I doubt Germany will have any airforce to spend with my massive production capabilities and even if, I think Japans airforce can pretty much kick the ass off your airforce.

Don't be so sure Mr. President. ^^

And yes if you ally japan you automatically take Japans role in the Chinese conflict, that means that you first have to capture India, before you can attack me.

Or I leave the British alone and they leave me. I doubt they have the resources to mount a huge offensive in China.

President of Argentina finds Soviet Union quiet annoying. President supports China, because it's more fun when China wins.

China supports Argentina too and wishes her good luck with Brazil!

 

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You probably mean don't be so sure mister totalitarian dictator right .

Its against the rules, if the allies help you with forces (You have written it in the rules). Although you are the host you are breaking the rules a bit too much (OK Hatuke has build a level 6 fort but he didn't know that the max lvl is 5, not to mention that you immediately said that you would edit it. Which you didn't do for your airports). I already had such games with the host being a total prick (Which you are not) and made up a series of rules that all were in his advantage (Like I as USSR was forbidden to annex the Baltic's, or even the USA had to go at war with me while I alone was at war with Italy and Germany). You should do something to show some recognition for the rule braking. Cause if not, I may soon not fell like waiting till 1944, to Dow someone. I don't have anything against exploiting, but breaking your own rules is twice as wrong if somone else would do it (As a host your behavior concerning the matter could be more honorable).

And about India, well you can even let them alone if you want, but its against the rules if you Dow me then, since you didn't achieve the tactical objectives demanded to perform the Dow (Since we would be probably in a war right after you join the axis, it would be against the rules to attack me).

 

[unmerged(117099)]

I am so crazy that what if I try to Dow Argentina after it dows South-American countries!??!?!
Besides I have the time.
+ U forgot to add that Canada went ahead on IC to other Minors expect China.=)

 

[hebelecan]

I agree that Germany is a little weaker than the SU. To balance things up, maybe we add some IC to Germany ? (I can live happily without it I'm just offering stuff for Delex)

 

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I agree that Germany is a little weaker than the SU. To balance things up, maybe we add some IC to Germany ? (I can live happily without it I'm just offering stuff for Delex)

A little lol, thats a good definition for it. And you can live happily without what? And you are offering what stuff to me?

 

[hebelecan]

And I was also thinking about the game balancing ,thats why i offered it. Germany is so low on IC

I'm offering balancing.

 

[Enewald]

Nawh, Japan can't win China any more.
They should give back the lands that are on mainland and Taiwan.
Japan does not really need Korea...

 

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I'm offering balancing.

Im for balancing, but against that kind of balancing. And Germany has enough allies to help it in its struggle anyway (Its not my fought that they didn't build IC).

 

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You probably mean don't be so sure mister totalitarian dictator right .

Nope, Mr. President from RA2.

Its against the rules, if the allies help you with forces (You have written it in the rules).

Well if you didn't notice that we voted at the start of the session that should I return the aircraft. Hatuke said no, he wanted the challenge. And I haven't written the Hiensen rules, have I?

Although you are the host you are breaking the rules a bit too much (OK Hatuke has build a level 6 fort but he didn't know that the max lvl is 5, not to mention that you immediately said that you would edit it. Which you didn't do for your airports).

How could I edit my airports, they would have been lvl6 by now? And I agreed not to touch Hatuke's forts. The rules are for a fair game, but I wouldn't start to call someone a total exploiter if he accidentally build 6 forts over the 5 limit. Same with the airbases, it was an accident that didn't really have any effect with the game.

I already had such games with the host being a total prick (Which you are not) and made up a series of rules that all were in his advantage (Like I as USSR was forbidden to annex the Baltic's, or even the USA had to go at war with me while I alone was at war with Italy and Germany). You should do something to show some recognition for the rule braking. Cause if not, I may soon not fell like waiting till 1944, to Dow someone. I don't have anything against exploiting, but breaking your own rules is twice as wrong if somone else would do it (As a host your behavior concerning the matter could be more honorable).

If you have any fair modifying you want in the rules, then just say and I'll add them. Actually that -44 dowing rule for minors that I added helps you. Without it you couldn't ever dow any other country besides Germany. And once again they are not my rules. I try to follow them, but eventually there was this minor break after 13 sessions, so accidents happen.

And about India, well you can even let them alone if you want, but its against the rules if you Dow me then, since you didn't achieve the tactical objectives demanded to perform the Dow (Since we would be probably in a war right after you join the axis, it would be against the rules to attack me).

Where in the rules does it say that China has tactical objectives with dowing USSR? And IF I'm going to fight anyone, I probably won't dow, but ally. But I really don't want an unbalanced Barbarossa here. So I definitely won't invade you by -41 (if we don't count claiming Mongolia). I will wait and see how Barbarossa turns out and join the weaker side IF I'm not still stuck with Japan.

I am so crazy that what if I try to Dow Argentina after it dows South-American countries!??!?!
Besides I have the time.

I think the Allies can get the South American countries in their alliance. The rules say that South America can be added after US joins, but if they are dowed... But I say that give Beladriel a year to advance in South America. He is alone out there against you, so let's at least have a nice battle and not just some landing of Buenos Aires.

+ U forgot to add that Canada went ahead on IC to other Minors expect China.=)

Yea, Canada with 60 IC, did even Hatuke get there last time? ...Well I'll see your IC again in the next update.

I agree that Germany is a little weaker than the SU. To balance things up, maybe we add some IC to Germany ? (I can live happily without it I'm just offering stuff for Delex)

Dude, I trust DvD 100% on this, shame that you don't. You are a traitor if you dare to question Germany like that!

Nawh, Japan can't win China any more.
They should give back the lands that are on mainland and Taiwan.
Japan does not really need Korea...

Well Korea is worth maybe 20 IC, but the other non-core/puppet land is pretty useless to Japan. All his troops in China would be free then, so I guess he would benefit it more than the current situation.

Actually Hatuke offered Manchuria at one point, but I wanted Korea too. After his offensives and the stalemate I asked for Manchuria and Taiwan, but the answer was no. So the fight goes on...

 

[Beladriel]

president of argentina was pretty much kidnapped by the nkvd in the last session (not to mention that the commie friends in brazil have smeared argentina some 5 times).

orly.

 

[juspedude]

It isn't written there, so whats not written is not forbidden.

IMPORTANT !!!!

0.0 : This ruleset doesn't cover all aspects and holes of the game engine.It does just show the historical way to follow.So instead of creating dozens of new rules,the players must agree in playing fair,respecting their opponents and the gameplay,so any unfair action done or going to be done shall be discussed with players that will take the right decision in order to keep a nice way of playing.


So stop being a dork...

OK Hatuke has build a level 6 fort but he didn't know that the max lvl is 5

Storm didnt remember that airfields have to be produced in the province...

I don't have anything against exploiting

We have seen that... I wonder how long u can stay here...

 

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IMPORTANT !!!!

0.0 : This ruleset doesn't cover all aspects and holes of the game engine.It does just show the historical way to follow.So instead of creating dozens of new rules,the players must agree in playing fair,respecting their opponents and the gameplay,so any unfair action done or going to be done shall be discussed with players that will take the right decision in order to keep a nice way of playing.


So stop being a dork...



Storm didnt remember that airfields have to be produced in the province...



We have seen that... I wonder how long u can stay here...

Well OK, but 2 things are here. Hatukes forts are being removed while Strom's airbases stay? And you are ignoring his second rule break, with UK giving him forces (If you do reply on my comments reply on them in a full aspect, not just those which you can counter, since if not, its better for you to keep quiet on such matters).

And 0.0 includes only alternative things not written, while Molotov Ribbentrop pact is a rule which is defined and it doesn't state that I may not offer the unholy alliance. I offer it always no matter if play vs human or AI, since no damage is done, if Germany declines it and goes for the normal pact. And thus this makes it an exploit and not a rule brake.

EDIT: The only exploit I was against, was the one where the Italy player has used lag trying to smear me some 10 times in a row. Thats more cheating as an exploit, cause an exploit is everything what you can do in normal game terms without bypassing the game engine or breaking the rules.

Beladriel -For real !

 

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Yea, Canada with 60 IC, did even Hatuke get there last time? ...Well I'll see your IC again in the next update.

Well to raise my IC I have to Dow(not possible whit my "Democratic state") or make a conquest on Axis lands.

Dude, I trust DvD 100% on this, shame that you don't. You are a traitor if you dare to question Germany like that!

There are generally two ways of playing Germany. Making troops from the beginning and not making Ic or Making two or three parel runs of factories and after that troops.

 

[DvD-IT]

I don't see any problem with SU offering a unholy alliance. I declined it of course, and that's it.

EDIT - ah, I see you meant an in-game event. Ignore my words.

 

[Krediax]

Well OK, but 2 things are here. Hatukes forts are being removed while Strom's airbases stay?

How could I edit my airports, they would have been lvl6 by now? And I agreed not to touch Hatuke's forts. The rules are for a fair game, but I wouldn't start to call someone a total exploiter if he accidentally build 6 forts over the 5 limit. Same with the airbases, it was an accident that didn't really have any effect with the game.

what did you say delex?

 

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what did you say delex?

I Apologize for that, since I didn't notice that part of the reply, if I would see it, I wouldn't continue to mention it (In the game, Strom didn't say that- not that I can remember or have read). But this still leaves us with the share forces issue.

 

[Juan_de_Marco]

hehehe, even though half the AAR thread is full of arguments, I do like the game that you guys are playing. and I have to say, you played just plain smart Storm. kudos.