Gloria Regni New Dev Diary 8/7/2017 Sabianism

[Furion Matsuya]

I'm really liking what I'm seeing here, I'm getting books on Babylon and Assyria for my brithday due to growing interesting in them both so this is quite exciting.

Will there be the ability to restore the religions of the ancient empires like with Hellenism or is that outside of the timeframe? do we know when Babylonian and Assyrian religions finally died out?

 

[starwarsfan541]

I'm really liking what I'm seeing here, I'm getting books on Babylon and Assyria for my brithday due to growing interesting in them both so this is quite exciting.

Will there be the ability to restore the religions of the ancient empires like with Hellenism or is that outside of the timeframe? do we know when Babylonian and Assyrian religions finally died out?

Well in Mesopotamia in the mid to late 600s the nestorian patriarch is recorded to have complained about the pagan population of southern Mesopotamia
Also in the 700s mesopotamian deities were still worshipped in sogdia and bacteria as part of their odd syncretic form of zoroastrianism

In the future there will be a way to restore some form of the old religion but I think it will probably be the in the Iranian group

 

[christopher0936]

Well in Mesopotamia in the mid to late 600s the nestorian patriarch is recorded to have complained about the pagan population of southern Mesopotamia
Also in the 700s mesopotamian deities were still worshipped in sogdia and bacteria as part of their odd syncretic form of zoroastrianism

In the future there will be a way to restore some form of the old religion but I think it will probably be the in the Iranian group

Forgot to doc this, but I think we said either a religious branch in the Mazdan group or just make them Zoroastrian?

Perhaps if the former and mainstream Zoroastrianism returns as a dominant power (ie: return of zoroastrian persia) they could try to enforce conformity to the official doctrine

 

[christopher0936]

I'm really liking what I'm seeing here, I'm getting books on Babylon and Assyria for my brithday due to growing interesting in them both so this is quite exciting.

Will there be the ability to restore the religions of the ancient empires like with Hellenism or is that outside of the timeframe? do we know when Babylonian and Assyrian religions finally died out?

Good , you can give us some flavor ideas. Right now both empire's are formable, but thats they extent of their respective cultures's mechanics.

I would say you would most commonly see them forming as either Chanceldonian, Nestorian, or Zoroastrian, (or their own Mazdan branch if we add those) but the only religious limitation is that they can't be Muslim, so I'm sure within twenty four hours of release there will be a Norse Babylon

EDIT: Should probably mention, AI won't be doing this very often, there's a lot of prerequisets for a non-goal oriented AI to meet. Wouldn't be any more common than AI Zoroastrian Persia

 

[Furion Matsuya]

Good , you can give us some flavor ideas. Right now both empire's are formable, but thats they extent of their respective cultures's mechanics.

I would say you would most commonly see them forming as either Chanceldonian, Nestorian, or Zoroastrian, (or their own Mazdan branch if we add those) but the only religious limitation is that they can't be Muslim, so I'm sure within twenty four hours of release there will be a Norse Babylon

EDIT: Should probably mention, AI won't be doing this very often, there's a lot of prerequisets for a non-goal oriented AI to meet. Wouldn't be any more common than AI Zoroastrian Persia

I can try and help with that I guess, it's easier then doing a name list which I tried to do a couple of times and got frustrated with due to lack of time and my own impatience.

I also actually see AI Zoroastrian Persia quite often in my games starting from the Old Gods bookmark but that's using CKII+ which I often tweak to my own specifications and likings as much as possible.

EDIT: I'd recomend for a character that owns Neo Babylon to be able to restore the Hanging Gardens and the Ishtar Gates via an event chain accessed from decisions/intrgue.

They could both be special buildings in Babylon or whatever holding contains the capital you guys decide on .

 

[starwarsfan541]

I can try and help with that I guess, it's easier then doing a name list which I tried to do a couple of times and got frustrated with due to lack of time and my own impatience.

I also actually see AI Zoroastrian Persia quite often in my games starting from the Old Gods bookmark but that's using CKII+ which I often tweak to my own specifications and likings as much as possible.

EDIT: I'd recomend for a character that owns Neo Babylon to be able to restore the Hanging Gardens and the Ishtar Gates via an event chain accessed from decisions/intrgue.

They could both be special buildings in Babylon or whatever holding contains the capital you guys decide on .

Both would definitely work though the ruler shoudnt be Christian for the Ishtar Gate. Nineveh could have some special buildings for Christian ruelrs as well as Zoro/ Pagan

 

[christopher0936]

I can try and help with that I guess, it's easier then doing a name list which I tried to do a couple of times and got frustrated with due to lack of time and my own impatience.

I also actually see AI Zoroastrian Persia quite often in my games starting from the Old Gods bookmark but that's using CKII+ which I often tweak to my own specifications and likings as much as possible.

EDIT: I'd recomend for a character that owns Neo Babylon to be able to restore the Hanging Gardens and the Ishtar Gates via an event chain accessed from decisions/intrgue.

They could both be special buildings in Babylon or whatever holding contains the capital you guys decide on .

Oh, there will be the "Move Capital to Nineveh" and Fix up Nineveh decisions, that stuff was gimme material.

...Gimme material we haven't coded yet, but still planned.

 

[Z-Z-Z]

Hi, do you have an ETA for the update?
P.S. Lime Water. 1 small lime. Cut lime into four quarters. Fill a big cup with water, add ice. Sqeeze the limes until the limes run dry. Drop limes in. Clear citrus juice from kitchen counter. Drink lime water. ???. Profit.

 

[Furion Matsuya]

Oh, there will be the "Move Capital to Nineveh" and Fix up Nineveh decisions, that stuff was gimme material.

...Gimme material we haven't coded yet, but still planned.

As soon as October 23rd hits I'll see if there is anything worthwhile in the books

 

[starwarsfan541]

Hi, do you have an ETA for the update?
P.S. Lime Water. 1 small lime. Cut lime into four quarters. Fill a big cup with water, add ice. Sqeeze the limes until the limes run dry. Drop limes in. Clear citrus juice from kitchen counter. Drink lime water. ???. Profit.

Depends on how fast bug fixing comes/ what sort of bugs appear. Anywhere from 5 days to two weeks at worst I think.

 

[Byzan]

Also, does this mod add anything relating to the Crusader States?

 

[starwarsfan541]

Also, does this mod add anything relating to the Crusader States?

Not atm, though I would like to. If you have ideas for them, it'd be appreciated.

At the least I'd like a melting pot culture for a surviving crusader state

 

[starwarsfan541]

General note, progress is going well. Today was slow as it took a while to find a major bug but thats been resolved.

 

[Widowmaker94]

Is it possible to make one of the knight orders playable? As a sort of Elective monarchy? I know it's not historical. But god damn, it'd be fun.

 

[Byzan]

I do have a few ideas, yeah. Ranging from religious, to cultural and political. PM, and i'll elaborate

 

[starwarsfan541]

If anyone has any experience making cultural melting pot namelists, I could really use one for a combination of French/German/Arabic/Aramaen

 

[Widowmaker94]

Is there any way to tie a government type to a dynasty?

 

[starwarsfan541]

Is there any way to tie a government type to a dynasty?

I assume the dynasty condition would work

 

[Widowmaker94]

I assume the dynasty condition would work

Hmm... just to test it... What's the Dynasty ID for the Palaiologos?

 

[Widowmaker94]

Actually, no, I.. Hmm.. Could you provide a version of the governments file.. but with a blank dynasty condition (So I can fill it in myself) rather than the title conditions for the Roman government type? I'm going to test it that way.