giving a colony to an alliance member

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Problem in giving a colony to an alliance member:

This has happened twice in my recent game as Turkey.
I started wars against the Mameluks and used my allies
(I know I don't have to call them up but sometimes it's useful).

I took several Mameluk provinces while Crimea took one province and
one colony (Sinai). I asked in a peace negotiation as alliance leader for two provinces for me and the Sinai colony for Crimea. Mameluks agreed yet the Sinai colony is listed as owned by Turkey yet controlled by Crimea.

In the next war against the Mameluks after my DoW, the Hadjuz were a Mameluk ally. Same problem. I get two Hadjuz provinces and try to give Crimea the colony near the Hadjuz capital. Same owner/control situation.

Can anyone explain this? Crimea is in my alliance but is not a vassal. Crimea also seemed to have a leader in both wars.

John Heidle

 

[viper37]

I had a similar problem once: I was playing France and was allied with Sweden. I took a colony from Denmark and I gave it to Sweden. After the peace treaty, the colony belonged to Sweden but was controlled by me.

I think (but I'm really not sure) that it's a bug concerning separate peace treaties in multiple wars. I was engage at this time in many BB wars and Sweden and I both signed some separate peaces with our ennemies. I think this is what resulted in a confusion.

It looks similar to me like the rebel provinces bug: If a province is under control by the rebels in a war and an ennemy liberates it, the province will remain to the ennemy after the peace (controlled by you, but belonging to the ennemy).

 

[Agelastus]

Originally posted by viper37
I had a similar problem once: I was playing France and was allied with Sweden. I took a colony from Denmark and I gave it to Sweden. After the peace treaty, the colony belonged to Sweden but was controlled by me.

I think (but I'm really not sure) that it's a bug concerning separate peace treaties in multiple wars. I was engage at this time in many BB wars and Sweden and I both signed some separate peaces with our ennemies. I think this is what resulted in a confusion.

It looks similar to me like the rebel provinces bug: If a province is under control by the rebels in a war and an ennemy liberates it, the province will remain to the ennemy after the peace (controlled by you, but belonging to the ennemy).

Must be lucky, I haven't had that one-difficult to see how it can be a separate peace problem though, since you wouldn't have had the option to give Kazan that province if they still weren't part of the "same" alliance war.

 

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Originally posted by john heidle
Problem in giving a colony to an alliance member:

This has happened twice in my recent game as Turkey.
I started wars against the Mameluks and used my allies
(I know I don't have to call them up but sometimes it's useful).

I took several Mameluk provinces while Crimea took one province and
one colony (Sinai). I asked in a peace negotiation as alliance leader for two provinces for me and the Sinai colony for Crimea. Mameluks agreed yet the Sinai colony is listed as owned by Turkey yet controlled by Crimea.
John Heidle

Yes, I have seen this also. Your ally takes control of the province. In peace treaty you request that your ally should get the province. But instead the game gives it to you instead.

I think this is a bug.