Give Me a Secret Police, Please!

[Lemont Elwood]

I would love to see, at some point in the future, a Policy option for censorship and political repression. Higher levels would cause greater attraction to state ethics, lower Unrest, lower Energy production, lower Society Research, higher Unity, lower Happiness, and lower growth rates. The highest policy could even cause wrong-ethos Pops to flee and would completely cease their growth.

State Terror
Police State
Political Harassment
Media Censorship
Free Speech

I also think it would make sense for only Egalitarians to be able to adopt more hard policies, but to be able to keep old discriminatory policies in place. Like, if the Revolution succeeds and the public decides to become Space Jacobins, they would be willing to do a Space Reign of Terror until everybody is Egalitarian and they loosen up on the laws.

It would be great, too, if there were an option for slavery that is neither chattel slavery nor forced labor purging, but rather just represents totalitarianism.

 

[Rath12]

It was good until the egalitarian thing. I mean what?

 

[Turnil]

there is the police state civic.
no idea what it does.

 

[henzington]

there is the police state civic.
no idea what it does.

-20% unrest but numbers are not final

 

[Riftwalker]

It was good until the egalitarian thing. I mean what?

Jacobins are fanatic Liberals that during the French Revolution reigned of a mini-era of terror as they rounded up everyone who was against the "people".

they however want a strong central government that treats everyone equally except along merit, so egalitarian or even the whole ethic system couldn't simulate a Jacobin view point very well. Perhaps a militarist Egalitarian (with also maybe materialist) with some civics for a strong government. Like they were pro-democracy to the point where people who didn't want a complete democracy were enemies of the revolution. there were mass executions, so they seem to support purge policy.

It would be interesting trying to find a way in Stellaris to allow for this view point.

I do kinda hope there's a militarist egalitarian faction or something that is quick to cause problems if they aren't kept happy or suppressed.

Honestly. This gave me an idea for a mod, where we have current civics that allow for bonuses, and then additional civics that allow for you to go outside the normal ethic lines. A Materialist xenophile that can purge, an authoritarian Democracy, an xenophile that can create livestock slaves. Etc.

 

[GC13]

-20% unrest but numbers are not final

It's actually a flat reduction of twenty, not a percent reduction.

 

[General Retreat]

Most of what you're asking for looks to already be fairly well abstracted through the new faction management system, which includes suppression. Not to mention the fact that unrest is primarily countered by military units, which you can RP as martial law, federal police, secret police - whatever.

Really the kind of options outlined in the OP risk adding complexity (that's a bad thing) without actually increasing the strategic depth or enjoyment of the game.

 

[Lemont Elwood]

It was good until the egalitarian thing. I mean what?

I thought it was pretty straightforward. Egalitarians should be allowed to use more strict Secret Police laws if they're already in place, but they shouldn't be allowed to tighten up on them.

 

[Caspoi]

I thought it was pretty straightforward. Egalitarians should be allowed to use more strict Secret Police laws if they're already in place, but they shouldn't be allowed to tighten up on them.

That is... not what you said, you should rephrase the OP if you mean something different.