Give back old terrain system!

[magnusvejby]

I really miss the old system where there was a % to what terrain you should fight in.
It was more realistic because in big provinces it is not all the same terrain, and that time maneuver generals were more important.

So I would like to hear your thoughts. If you dislike the idea please write why and vice versa.

Sorry for any bad english i am not english

 

[Karnak]

so there are 256 000 results of battle terrain calculations, and somehow each of them should be calculated in the background, presented on UI and processed by player's brain.

Saying things like this does not help your arguments in the least. That example is rubbish, and your condescending tone is more annoying than anything else. Just my two cents.

 

[TheShah]

I don't really mind the new terrain system mechanics-wise but visually its quite a step back, and distressing.

Can we please go back to the dispersed trees, marshes and overall map graphics of 1.9? The simple terrain system mechanics-wise (and as a separate strategic map layer) is fine.

As 1.10 with its massive bunched forests (and no trees anywhere else) is choking Germany and Northeast America; given how clustered the HRE is, that makes it near impossible to even distinguish individual countries in the default physical map layer. As those provinces are "woods" they are now completely dominated by trees (which are absent everywhere else except for the Palms in the ME.) That the woods provinces are visually revamped to be completely forest has a logic I admit but its misguided. The Hungarian Plain looks much worse without some bits of scattered marsh. The Pripet Marches look sloppy with the sharp province edges to the marshes, and in general Eastern Europe looks much more generic in 1.10. North China is also now very bland.

Uggh...

When I first got El Dorado I thought it was a bug (and annoyed Andrew, in the Bug thread, harping on it), but now I am not so sure it was unintentional. It was also a buzzkill at first too, although I've sucked it up and played anyways (broken Custom Nation mechanics aside [which will be fixed in 1.11 ].) But please, please can the map graphics in 1.11 go back to pre-1.10.1? Please. Even if you keep the simple terrain system. That's fine. If nothing else, perhaps it could be a toggled graphics option?

The EU4 physical layer used to be so beautiful and photo-realistic. Now its unsightly! ...

--------------
I may (or may not) post some comparative screenshots in this post (or a subsequent) post. If this is a popular issue I might also make its own thread in the main forum (to gauge general opinion) or just move this post to a new thread in the Suggestion Sub-Forum. But as I've deduced the visual changes were done to match the simple terrain map (which is puzzling since that system was there in 1.9) it can be kept here for now.

 

[Wizzington]

No.

 

[magnusvejby]

No.

 

[Karnak]

No.

Can we get populations back?

 

[User4035]

One terrain > terrain percentages because it actually allows on some strategical positioning instead of random die roll 'I lost war because 5% mountain'

This was pretty much it.
I don't want to play a military focused game with no tactics when it comes to warfare.
When they released EU4 they stated they wanted battles to feel more like the 1 day fights they really were. But then had all these calculations that players had no strategic input for.
Sit there and watch the squares fight it out in the battle screen? Why not just make the fights auto-calculate so we have 1 day battles?