When my character dies my heir only gets 1 part of land not all, how do i make it so only 1 son heir gets all the land?
Give all land to 1 heir
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That's because you are under the Gavelkind succession, which divides your lands among your children. So your new character's brother(s) probably inherited the rest of your land.
If you want to avoid that, you can change your succession law, only have one son, or murder your siblings when your inherit
If you want to avoid that, you can change your succession law, only have one son, or murder your siblings when your inherit
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your issue is gravelkind, the succession law most start out with, with gravelkind your land is divided "equally" to all possible heirs, so all sons or all daughters and sons in case of equal succession laws, you want to change youre succession law to any other for if you want only one heir to inherit
If you can't change out of gavelkind fast enough or don't want to (that demesne bonus Is pretty nice), just make sure your other heirs have enough land to go around: If you're holding one kingdom, make sure everyone else is a duke or a large enough count. That satisfies your sons' division, leaving the rest to your main man.
Or, if you've got more than one primary title up for grabs or the land you want to hold on to belongs to two separate titles, offload a ton of land onto the oldest, least sexually active, sickest, loneliest lowborn you can find. Best case scenario, he hogs up the land that you will inherit back when he inevitably dies. Worst case scenario, he's only got enough seed in him for one child, and child rulers are easy to kill off.
Or, if you've got more than one primary title up for grabs or the land you want to hold on to belongs to two separate titles, offload a ton of land onto the oldest, least sexually active, sickest, loneliest lowborn you can find. Best case scenario, he hogs up the land that you will inherit back when he inevitably dies. Worst case scenario, he's only got enough seed in him for one child, and child rulers are easy to kill off.
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I love it - three replies and three different ways of spelling "gavelkind" !
Or is it "gravel king ?"
Or is it "gravel king ?"
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As Catholic w/ Gavelkind and Free Investiture, you can have your sons be nominated to become bishops which takes them out of succession. Technically you could also have them take vows, but you can't force someone who is set to inherit to take the vows without imprisoning them first. You could also just give them a temple if you have a free one lying around.
Although, with all the death these days, I might be more inclined to think slightly higher of Gavelkind than I did back in the day...
Although, with all the death these days, I might be more inclined to think slightly higher of Gavelkind than I did back in the day...
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Can one make gravel king in a dutchy?
I send all my problems to the church because I hate God. And myself.
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I can think of three ways off the top of my head: grant them a bishopric (a county with a temple as a primary holding), make them take the vows (if Sons of Abraham DLC is on), appoint as an heir to an existing bishop (if free investiture). Not sure what other conditions there are.
But still, go primogeniture or elective. Gavelkind isn't really worth it.
So long as you keep your horniness in check or can find extra titles to give your extra sons, that extra demesne bonus is extra nice until you start breeding super stewards or get your centralization up.
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I used to HATE gavelkind, but once you realize how to manage it, its really not all that bad. Its actually kind of fun to lose a couple titles when you die & have to find someway to scheme to get them back. 
How does one go about disinheriting extra sons if norse-pagan and gavelkind? Can't switch to new law yet either
Appoint them generals, and try to have them killed. Or imprison them and execute them
i guess i should've been more specific...i don't really want my second son dead because both kids have great stats and it would be a shame to waste my second sons abilities as a commander or even a vassal...should i just grant both of them the pieces of land i want them to have before i die and just keep one county and kingdom title till i die?
Edit: I'm fairly new to playing with the pagans cause i've always play catholics...but since i started watching the "vikings" tv show a couple weeks ago i've started playing the norse-pagans and am not very familiar with all of there mechanics
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Give the extra heirs land outside of your capital duchy. That way your personal demesne (I'm assuming your using a single duchy for this) stays intact over the generations. As a pagan, it's fairly easy to acquire little bits of land here and there so it shouldn't be too hard. It doesn't actually have to be an even amount, just one county outside your capital should do it.
The other challenge you have as an unreformed pagan, is that you're dealing with Elective Gavelkind, which is like the worst parts of Gavelkind and Tanistry put together with its own unique shenanigans thrown into the mix. Basically, your electors will prefer older, more distant members of your dynasty over your children BUT your land still gets divided amongst your children. And if you have multiple kingdoms worth of land, the extra kingdom will be created, guaranteeing realm splitting.
How you deal with this is somewhat depending on your goals. Going Catholic (or some other organized religion) will allow you to switch to regular Gavelkind and eventually feudalize. You may also wish to reform your faith, which will do the same thing, but is harder and cooler. If you want to keep your demesne as intact as possible before you accomplish either of these, one surefire way to do this is to have no vassals. This way you are the only elector and only have to deal with the Gavelkind mechanics. Or, maybe you want to play with the madness that is Elective Gavelkind, could be fun, but try to keep some extra land for your sons to inherit so that your core lands remain somewhat intact and you can actually reap the benefits of building improvements.
The other challenge you have as an unreformed pagan, is that you're dealing with Elective Gavelkind, which is like the worst parts of Gavelkind and Tanistry put together with its own unique shenanigans thrown into the mix. Basically, your electors will prefer older, more distant members of your dynasty over your children BUT your land still gets divided amongst your children. And if you have multiple kingdoms worth of land, the extra kingdom will be created, guaranteeing realm splitting.
How you deal with this is somewhat depending on your goals. Going Catholic (or some other organized religion) will allow you to switch to regular Gavelkind and eventually feudalize. You may also wish to reform your faith, which will do the same thing, but is harder and cooler. If you want to keep your demesne as intact as possible before you accomplish either of these, one surefire way to do this is to have no vassals. This way you are the only elector and only have to deal with the Gavelkind mechanics. Or, maybe you want to play with the madness that is Elective Gavelkind, could be fun, but try to keep some extra land for your sons to inherit so that your core lands remain somewhat intact and you can actually reap the benefits of building improvements.
To become a gravel king you must first be a super gravel duke, or be a gravel duke and have at least 2,000 Prestige (from selling gravel, naturally !).
I prefer starting as a gravel count (it's a hard job counting gravel, believe me !), I can't wait until they add the ability to play as a gravel baron or better yet - a gravel-less lowborn.
Wait, aren't those last ones simply called "peasants" ?
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