Gifting/Trading

[JerkyJerry]

Will there be a way for one country to gift/trade territory with/to another country?

I think there was something about Germany giving Greenland & Iceland to England at the start of the war? Did it happen? Did that sort of thing happen often during the war or before?


The reason I ask is I’m playing Japan and came to that Portuguese port in Asia. I don’t remember the name just that it is next to the British and French ports. So I have to DoW Portugal to get that port and them out of there. I would rather if possible: Trade something (territory, IC, equipment, cash etc.) to Portugal for that province.


In a live game is there a way that the Portuguese could swap that province with another? Or for cash considerations or equipment etc.?


So whether historically accurate or not, can we swap/trade/give provinces from one country to another? One faction to another?

Can we swap/trade/give territory in live games only?

 

[Sun_Killer]

yeah you can give and demand territory

 

[Number 7]

the easiest way i know of to trade territory is to trade bullets for them.

and panzer shells for that matter

lots of them

 

[potski]

I think there was something about Germany giving Greenland & Iceland to England at the start of the war? Did it happen? Did that sort of thing happen often during the war or before?

Greenland and Iceland were part of Denmark when the war started. After Denmark was invaded by Germany, the UK occupied Iceland and Canada occupied Greenland IIRC to prevent Germany from using the bases there.

The reason I ask is I’m playing Japan and came to that Portuguese port in Asia. I don’t remember the name just that it is next to the British and French ports. So I have to DoW Portugal to get that port and them out of there.

Macau. You don't need the port - Canton and Hong Kong are both close by. And it's not required to force a Chinese capitulation. It's not worth DoW'ing Portugal over. You would have to spend ages fabricating a claim before you can do that.

 

[LordOfWar16]

yeah you can give and demand territory

No you cant, you can only give and ask for controll over th occupation, but not for ownership over states.

Greenland and Iceland were part of Denmark when the war started. After Denmark was invaded by Germany, the UK occupied Iceland and Canada occupied Greenland IIRC to prevent Germany from using the bases there.

Ingame denmark will keep controll over iceland and greenland tho, since they are considered oversea territory, which doesnt surrender upon capitulation. Same as the French colonies once france surrenders.

 

[JerkyJerry]

Greenland and Iceland were part of Denmark when the war started. After Denmark was invaded by Germany, the UK occupied Iceland and Canada occupied Greenland IIRC to prevent Germany from using the bases there.

Thank you!

Macau. You don't need the port - Canton and Hong Kong are both close by. And it's not required to force a Chinese capitulation. It's not worth DoW'ing Portugal over. You would have to spend ages fabricating a claim before you can do that.

True I don't need the port but it got me to thinking about trading provinces. And I own everything else so yeah they have to go!

 

[JerkyJerry]

No you cant, you can only give and ask for controll over th occupation, but not for ownership over states.

So I can't as Poland in '36 or '37 give Danzig to say Nat. China for some coal or a province etc?

 

[LordOfWar16]

So I can't as Poland in '36 or '37 give Danzig to say Nat. China for some coal or a province etc?

No, but you can give it to the friendly germans when they ask kindly for it tho . Coal isnt an strategic resource in the game aswell, which are traded globaly on the free market. You have no influence of whom you trade with, but you can embargo some nations via National Focus (not freely tho!). You can send lend-lease tho.

 

[JerkyJerry]

Thanks LOW16

I was just thinking of the hundreds if not thousands of ways being able to trade/give/bequest territory would be in live games mostly but maybe in solo games as well as the player could make a couple of trades and make the game easier or harder for him/herself.
But in a live game it could really make otherwise insignificant countries all of a sudden very valuable. Not to mention the potential power land-locked countries could enjoy with a trade and a acquisition of a port.
I think on one of the WWW events (or somewhere) I heard/read that supplies would be coming out of every city not just the capital city as in HoI3. Therefore acquiring a territory with a city could change even more of the landscape for a live game.

 

[onix87]

the easiest way i know of to trade territory is to trade bullets for them.

and panzer shells for that matter

lots of them

Yup theat is the only trade theat matters

 

[LordOfWar16]

Thanks LOW16

I was just thinking of the hundreds if not thousands of ways being able to trade/give/bequest territory would be in live games mostly but maybe in solo games as well as the player could make a couple of trades and make the game easier or harder for him/herself.
But in a live game it could really make otherwise insignificant countries all of a sudden very valuable. Not to mention the potential power land-locked countries could enjoy with a trade and a acquisition of a port.
I think on one of the WWW events (or somewhere) I heard/read that supplies would be coming out of every city not just the capital city as in HoI3. Therefore acquiring a territory with a city could change even more of the landscape for a live game.

well, you may cant trade territory, but during a peacedeal once the enemy surrendered, you can of course let them get the port for example. You can even use your points to give territory to other involved countries.

 

[JerkyJerry]

Yeah I was thinking about it in a completely different way. No biggie just asking.
Thanks!