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liebgot said:
Start the war later like Hitler wanted and get parts of poland for free
But what about
What if I coup them in 1937 ? is there some events there will not happen ?
If I make the alliance with them after the coup do I then get austria, prag and memel ?
This is Hard-Coded
You will find the hardcode in the Ai-Ger event file. Event 20023 is triggered by the end of Chech events, sets the "GerInvadePoland" flag. Once this has been set, the "Danzig or War" event guarentees that a war WILL occur, regardless of outcome, due to "Poland Invasion AI" event 20002 hardcoding the event. Kinda Sucks, but this is the code.
Also, there is a fluke in the coding that Causes the following:
If you ally with the allies early, and leave after the scheduled date for the "allies offer alliance" event, the "Danzig or War" event will not fire. The "Poland Invasion AI" event WILL still fire, causing an unprovoked DOW of Poland on 02 Sept 1939. Again, this sucks and is pre-set by the "end of Czechoslovakia" events in March 1939.
The "ONLY" way to evade a hardcoded DOW of Poland, by Germany, is for Poland to be allied to Germany in August/Septenber 1939, and therefore evade the firing of "Poland Invasion AI" Event 20002. if you do this, you can leave germany after September 1939 (should you choose), and play a beligerant Poland.
Hope this helps
DeathDemon said:
You will find the hardcode in the Ai-Ger event file. Event 20023 is triggered by the end of Chech events, sets the "GerInvadePoland" flag. Once this has been set, the "Danzig or War" event guarentees that a war WILL occur, regardless of outcome, due to "Poland Invasion AI" event 20002 hardcoding the event. Kinda Sucks, but this is the code.
Also, there is a fluke in the coding that Causes the following:
If you ally with the allies early, and leave after the scheduled date for the "allies offer alliance" event, the "Danzig or War" event will not fire. The "Poland Invasion AI" event WILL still fire, causing an unprovoked DOW of Poland on 02 Sept 1939. Again, this sucks and is pre-set by the "end of Czechoslovakia" events in March 1939.
The "ONLY" way to evade a hardcoded DOW of Poland, by Germany, is for Poland to be allied to Germany in August/Septenber 1939, and therefore evade the firing of "Poland Invasion AI" Event 20002. if you do this, you can leave germany after September 1939 (should you choose), and play a beligerant Poland.
Hope this helps
Federkiel said:Yes and this is the way to go:
-> Coup Poland before 30th of March 39.
-> Invite them into alliance immedeately.
-> Ban them from the alliance before M-R pact.
-> Keep relations with them high. They are still NS and like you.
-> Demand new cores from them after MR-pact.
-> When "Danzig or war" fires, claim. Poland will fold with 40% probability.
This is the best you get without cheating.
Hi again, it worked I got Danzig, I have relations with poland on 200. But I can't demand new territory from poland ?
Is there not more territory from poland that I can Demand ?
DeathDemon said:
Nope.
I am currently running a game as Italy (DD-ARM). Germany only gets an alliance with Austria and takes the Sudetenland. M-R Pact event fires, the usual options. Poland caves and gives up Danzig. memel is claimed by germany. No war.
A couple of years later Germany demand Bydogozsz and the other two Polish provinces, Poland caves.
Currently in my game its August 1948 and Germany is a sleeping tiger. I however own half of Spain (from the civil war, where I decided to be opportunistic), Ethiopia (of course), Albania, Greece, Yugoslavia, Turkey and Switzerland. My allies consist of: Nationalist Spain, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland and Persia.
Axis (Germany and Austria) have done nothing.
Comintern (USSR, Mongolia, Tannu Tuva got annexed by Soviet event) are at peace.
Allies (UK, France, Netherlands, USA, assorted puppets) are at war with Japan, Menguckgo, Menchuko and Nationalist China (who were annexed by Japan and released as a fascist puppet of Japan). All other Chinese states were annexed by either China or Japan.
The Japanese navy seems to be sinking nearly everything in its path (though things appear to be going slightly wrong for them). Japan annexed the Phillipines, taken most of Dutch East Indies, Invaded British India from the East (through Burma) and the North (through Siangchang), though they have been driven back by the brits. The japanese even managed an invasion of North Australia but have been beaten back into the sea.
Germany is a tame-ducky, never been at war. Italy is the scourge of Europe (I am at peace and desperate to roll under that 5% for a coup in the USSR, imagine adding the USSR to my alliance?) and Japan is the scourge of the Pacific.
Interesting game.
Ayeshteni
orimazd said:
In spy options. I have a 5% chance of staging a coup in the USSR (at a cost of 525 gold). Thats the 5% I wish to 'roll' under when I press the OK button. hasn't happened yet, but I keep dreaming.
Ayeshteni
pomse said:
Did you only get Danzig or the other new cores (M-R pact) as well? It's Bydgoscz, Poznan and Torun.
If you got them - that's all. No more claims possible.
In the 38 GC there are two more provinces available: Lodz and Czestochowa. I don't know for what reasons but at least it's just in this campaign.
pomse said:
I did not yet experience this but was suspecting something like that. I have given up trying to understand AI logics. That is the reason why i recommend to claim the pact areas before Danzig fires. You then have a chance of 46-50% for Poland to cave in, depending on extend of good relations.
In your situation it may be necessary to ally with them again, which should still be possible. A little gamey, admittedly, but hopefully it helps you. If all fails, wait some time, improve relations to +200 and try allying/claiming again.
Federkiel said:
I have no problem with a new alliance
and I have alredy +200 but still 0% chance for claiming ?