Germany World War One Beta AAR

[foriavik]

Yeah the war isnt won yet and I think we shouldnt get to the final conclusion that the game is too easy... Paris is taken, so what? resistance continues. Paris also fell in 1940, despite the Germans didnt win the war. And what about Russia? Maybe they are using the same strategy as in the Napoleonic wars, luring the enemy in and then counterattack. So Im still hoping that we will see some turning point during 1915

 

[Fernando Torres]

I shall repeat myself:
The British send expeditionary corps to the French and, therefore, you cannot see "British counters" in France because they are under French command.

 

[tisse]

just a question will nations like Canada,Australia,New zeeland and india(brittish raj) send expeditionary forces to europe?

 

[Fernando Torres]

Not only to Europe but to Africa.

 

[The War Monger]

I am quite pleased with what I am seeing and am certain to purchase the game. So, go Germany!

Can I assume that this forum is open to anyone who wishes to start their AAR now if they are writing a rather lengthy narrative introduction?

Second, is there any definitive word about Kaiserreich being ready to release when the game is?

Thanks,

 

[MartinBG]

Can I assume that this forum is open to anyone who wishes to start their AAR now if they are writing a rather lengthy narrative introduction?

Yes, this sub-forum is open for everyone

Second, is there any definitive word about Kaiserreich being ready to release when the game is?

KR team should answer that (better ask that question in Mods sub-forum), but from what I can see they already have a playable version ported to the new map.

 

[Jaegerfeld]

just a question will nations like Canada,Australia,New zeeland and india(brittish raj) send expeditionary forces to europe?

Anzac gets targets in arabia / africa and the ottoman realm. They often land in Gallipolli and or Palestine. Palestine hurts much more.
Italy could storm Turkey from their bases at rhodos.

 

[Rich028]

As for people claiming it is ridiculous for the Kaisermarine to do anything near England's coast, you are aware that early in the war German ships shelled seaside towns in England?

 

[unmerged(82211)]

You know, I like reading the posts over here 'cause we learn so much of History in them as we never do in other places.

 

[StephenT]

Historically, the Kaiser was terrified of letting his shiny, expensive dreadnoughts get sunk by the British, so he kept them in port almost the entire war. As a suggestion on how to model this: could there be a triggered modifier of some sort, when Germany is at war with Britain, that gives all their battleships something like -50 morale and -50 organisation? And then have a decision, similar to the offensive chit, that removes this penalty for one month in return for a cost in supplies, dissent etc, that represents the Kaiser being persuaded to let the fleet sail.


As for the size of the historical British Empire forces in France:

August 1914: 7 divisions
December 1914: 17 divisions
April 1915: 24 divisions
June 1916: 60 divisions
(The force remained at between 60-70 divisions thereafter)

Also, Paris in 1914 was one of the most heavily fortified places in Europe, with a ring of 196 separate forts (22 of them major ones) and 278 artillery batteries constructed in 1874-88 at a cost of 680 million francs - though admittedly the fortifications were out of date compared to those of Liege or Verdun.

 

[Jaegerfeld]

not part of this aar, just pictures i took a few minutes ago while testing the AI.

 

[tuore]

Also, Paris in 1914 was one of the most heavily fortified places in Europe, with a ring of 196 separate forts (22 of them major ones) and 278 artillery batteries constructed in 1874-88 at a cost of 680 million francs - though admittedly the fortifications were out of date compared to those of Liege or Verdun.

But could Paris have been able to defend against an enemy coming superior in numbers and from three different directions (like in this AAR)?

 

[unmerged(227777)]

As for people claiming it is ridiculous for the Kaisermarine to do anything near England's coast, you are aware that early in the war German ships shelled seaside towns in England?

Yep. The difference is that those were raids - specifically designed to lure out parts of the British fleet into traps.

That's very different from parking the German fleet off the coast of England while the British fleet twiddles its thumbs.

 

[Rich028]

Yep. The difference is that those were raids - specifically designed to lure out parts of the British fleet into traps.

That's very different from parking the German fleet off the coast of England while the British fleet twiddles its thumbs.

I doubt thats what happened in this AAR.

The real superiority of the RN over the Kaisermarine was shown after Jutland, with the Brittish admirals shamed, the public outraged and the German's celebrating what they were trumpeting as a victory, one might have thought the tide in the north sea was changing.

But the RN was ready to fight another battle 4 days later, the German fleet never fully recovered.

 

[TheExecuter]

Also, Paris in 1914 was one of the most heavily fortified places in Europe, with a ring of 196 separate forts (22 of them major ones) and 278 artillery batteries constructed in 1874-88 at a cost of 680 million francs - though admittedly the fortifications were out of date compared to those of Liege or Verdun.

On paper, yes...in real life, most of those forts were not manned, and the guns had been removed for use by the armies in the field.

 

[unmerged(256852)]

update???

 

[StephenT]

On paper, yes...in real life, most of those forts were not manned, and the guns had been removed for use by the armies in the field.

In 1916, yes. I think you'll find that in 1914 the forts had all their guns and were fully manned. Joffre stripped the remaining French forts of their artillery in 1915 to support his Champagne offensives; when the war broke out, the French were still looking at extending and improving Paris's fortifications.

As for Paris defending against a superior enemy force attacking from three directions: no, probably not, assuming the Germans had enough artillery for their guns - which was not a sure thing, certainly not in 1915. Most of the main armies fired off their entire peacetime stockpile of heavy-calibre ammunition in the first couple of months of the war, and it took nearly a year for them to get production up and running to meet the demands of total war...

 

[tuore]

update???

I'm a bit busy, but hopefully I can update today.

 

[tuore]

Chapter XV: The Battle of Evreux

After Paris had fallen, our troops pushed even further into French territory. The city of Caen was taken around the 10th of April. Our troops would now attempts to encircle enemy units in Evreux, dealing a crushing blow.

As the battles raged on, new troops were trained. A total of 6 divisions were sent to the western front. They didn't make it to the grand battle of Evreux, though:

This would be a long and bloody battle. It began in mid-April, and would most likely continue at least a month.

A month would not be so bad, were it not for the fact that our people were getting unhappy with the prolonged war. The Kaiser had not delivered his promises, our troops were still fighting and dying. The home front was getting restless.

The situation could not be improved by boasting with our successes - at least in the naval sector. Our fleet failed to repel a combined enemy attack (Italy, UK and France had united their forces) in the battle of Scheldt Estuary on the 3rd of May, and some French divisions landed in Dunkirk. Fortunately our coastal guard managed to weaken them.

The battle of Evreux continued. French forces have made landings - still small, but they could be reinforced as our navy was regaining strenght. Dissent is growing. All we could now do was wait and hope for a successful battle of Evreux.


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So, this update showed several new things that DH features:
1. Dissent-giving events when important cities (not just VP areas) are lost.
2. Prolonged war has its consequences now.
3. Even after the capital is lost, the battles last for a considerable time (the encirclement of Evreux took over a month, and it was pure luck that the French didn't pull out quickly enough).

 

[Cybvep]

I like those "war weariness" and "X is lost" events and the fact that the Entente combined their naval forces, but it's sad to see 28 divs getting encircled so easily. This will be the fatal blow to the French.