In my current game I'm playing US with control over the UK and Canada forces. It is april 1944 and Germany is well beaten they only occupi 2 provinces (one is Bornholm a small island in the baltic sea) they have 4 land divisions, the navy is 11 transport and they have 3 or 4 airdivisions. It is game over but they won't surrender - why ??
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Personnaly I never saw Germany accept peace, even if you occupy all their provinces, and they lost all their armies. The more I ever saw was, after annexion/pupetting of Germany, the fact that Hungary or Bulgaria, new leaders of the Axis, could eventually agree for a peace treaty. But in one game I tried to convince Bulgaria, last Axis nation and therefore leader, to make peace, and they refused maybe 30 times (lost all my DI on that !), although they only had the one province around Sofia left...
How do you say "stubborn" in Axis slang again ?
How do you say "stubborn" in Axis slang again ?
Making peace is practically a relic from EU2. HoI nations hate making peace no matter how badly you outmatch them; I think the only time you can reliably get a peace deal is if you declare war on the USA by event (there's a CORE event series that fires once you've taken over the British Isles); if you make the choice to declare war on the USA instead of parrying their ultimatum, then you can get a peace deal the same hour you declare on them.
Sometimes I am able to make peace with minor nations (usually minor Axis nations once Germany is defeated, or almost). Especially, I saw Hungary turn coat in several games when the fall of Germany is at hand (I dont know if this is scipted or not).
But there is one thing that puzzles me. I usually play as France. In one game, I made peace with Hungary once Germany had been defeated, and it happened that Hungary and Bulgaria were then at peace with all the Allies, actually ending WW2. In an other game, the same move made me, France, be at peace with Hungary and Bulgaria, but all the other Allies still at war with them.
Could it be that the "leader" of the Axis was Hungary in one game, in Bulgaria in the other ? Or does the UK have a say when I sue for a separate peace, to follow me or not ?
But there is one thing that puzzles me. I usually play as France. In one game, I made peace with Hungary once Germany had been defeated, and it happened that Hungary and Bulgaria were then at peace with all the Allies, actually ending WW2. In an other game, the same move made me, France, be at peace with Hungary and Bulgaria, but all the other Allies still at war with them.
Could it be that the "leader" of the Axis was Hungary in one game, in Bulgaria in the other ? Or does the UK have a say when I sue for a separate peace, to follow me or not ?
If the leader of one alliance makes peace with a country or alliance, the entire alliance of the peacenik makes peace. Who's the leader after ENG, GER, or SOV is annexed depends on the order the other countries joined - the first country invited becomes the new leader. In your first example, you must have been the leader of the Allies somehow (did ENG get annexed, or drop out due to New Order West?) so when you made peace with Hungary, who usually joins the Axis quite early and who was therefore the leader, you ended the war. In your second example you were not the leader of the Allies, but Hungary was leading the Axis, so getting a peace from Hungary puts you at peace with the entire Axis.