Germany: How to suck every drop of oil from Romania

[VonMarkko]

As Germany, aside from pre-war hording of oil thru trade with the USA, Germany needs to get every drop of oil from Romania available. I have not found a satisfactory way to do this. You can buy it from day one, which is too expensive, as you can buy it bargain prices from the USA mid '36 with active trading. But you still need to get it. A coup will get Romania to 200 Relations and budget prices but it won't all be available. Annexing them will destroy their potentially useful army against the Russians and only provide 60% of it. Puppeting them won't get them to break their trade agreements giving it away to other countries. Any ideas?

 

[corazhor]

you're having fuel issues as germany? I have honestly never come close to that problem, especially with all the extra fuel and oil you get from conquering other nations. What did you do with your military that uses so much fuel? Also, Venezuala and the USSR are other nations that tend to have surplus oil and might let you have some. If you're puppeting them and they're still trading it, I think thats a bug (all the puppet's resources should flow to you after they stockpile 1k of them), so you can just tag to them and break the trade deals, they shouldn't be able to reinstate them. Also, can't you annex them and then release as a puppet? That ought to break their trades as well (also destroys their fairly decent army, so probably a bad choice).

 

[21oliver]

I was going to say the same thing, i get Romania into the Axis ASAP and never really have any issues.

 

[VonMarkko]

Thanks for not really reading my post. I want Romania's oil. I blitzed them and got the puppet leaving their army intact, and they would give me their surplus oil, but they don't have any surplus as they have existing trade deals. I since saved the game, restarted as Romania, cancelled their trade deals, then saved and restarted as Germany. I will test to see it they make new trade deals or give it to me.

 

[21oliver]

We did read your post, we simply dont understand why you are having any problems in the first place. There is no need to take them and puppet them and there surely is no way you should run out of fuel and oil. Thats what we are trying to figure out. I conquered the world by 43 while barely paying attention recently and never even came close to running out of anything. In fact if you trade well you should be well set before hostilities even begin. Your doing alot of work and we dont understand why...

 

[VonMarkko]

nm

 

[21oliver]

Any ideas?

You asked for ideas and we are giving them. 1) Trade well before the war, 2) influence Romania and get them in the Axis ASAP, 3) dont call them to arms vs the Soviets. That alone and you should have no trouble at all. If your running out of oil or fuel you simply arent doing something right. We are trying to help you so no need to be nasty. Lots of quality people here and most are willing to help, but not if you act like that. Back to the topic, Germany never runs out of fuel or oil, certainly not before resolving their war with the Soviets. And take this into consideration, I often sell lots of fuel to raise cash the first few years of the game. Your likely not trading enough or perhaps your making too many units requiring fuel. I often have about 50 aircraft and 25 Armor divisions by the time Barbarossa comes around. Perhaps if you provide more details of what your trading was like and your builds we could identify the problem.

 

[ivain]

If you have oil issues, that's stupid to pick Romanian oil before the war : you will either let them join axis or conquer them. Buy some allied oil till you can't.

 

[Had a dad]

Can we give gameplay advice without calling a strategy stupid or sounding condescending.

 

[ltccone]

Speaking of advice, what is the quickest way to get Romania into the Axis?

 

[21oliver]

Raise threat on the Soviets and influence Romania.

 

[ltccone]

Raise threat on the Soviets and influence Romania.

I've tried that several times; but I can't get them into to Axis until the USSR grabs Bessarabia. Would support your party spying help?

 

[21oliver]

i never have any problem....

Nah support your party would be for a coup. Who is their highest threat against? Is it the Soviets? I also raise threat on France as well.

Were hijacking this thread, if it doesn't work open a new thread and well talk there.

OP have you had any better luck with your oil situation?

 

[VonMarkko]

It is best to attack and puppet Romania so as to get as much of their oil as possible for cheap. I Do this in 1937, After Achuslitzs of Austria, I blitz Yugoslavia and "conquer", and then Blitz Romania and "puppet", being careful not to kill Romanian units, just push them back, with a war goal of "Puppet" it saves their army for you. It takes about 2 months for Romania to adjust to being your Puppet and start shipping you 14 Oil and 2.56 Fuel each month, plus the refinery bonus which really cranks it up oil to fuel conversion of home supplies, coal conversion and purchased oil from America. What started this thread was that I did not see Romania giving over the oil at first, but after about 2 months it does start to flow in. In fact, Romania, left to AI, and with no meddling by me, cancelled it's existing oil deals after a while and gave me all of the oil. Now, I am happy.

 

[21oliver]

If your happy, we are happy!

But my question is how did you attack them in 1937? The more threat you raise early, the sooner youll bring the US into the war. Keeping the USA out of the Allies is worth more then all the oil in the game.

 

[corazhor]

Von - are you just wanting romanian oil, not needing it? Cus we really don't understand how you could have gotten into a situation where you actually need it. Also, I believe nations will share their strategic resource with you if they are 'in your corner', even without being part of your faction. I don't remember how close they need to be do it, but I think they share it even before you can invite them.

Another idea I just had - Romania will cancel trades with anyone they're at war with. If they're in the axis, you can call them to arms against the allies, and unless they have some heavy trading to neutrals (I can't think of why they would), that could free up most of their oil and feel less gamey.

Also, from your description of canceling their trades, do you know about the console and the 'tag' command? You can pause the game, press the ` key, and a console will open. type 'tag XXX' where XXX is the country code, and you switch control to that country. You can do this without pausing, but if any time elapses, your entire country will be under AI control. Can lead to unexpected changes (not the least of which is that your army will be on AI control even after you switch back, with orders to go who knows where and do who knows what). The country codes for Germany and Romania are GER and ROM.

 

[VonMarkko]

I can't absolutely stand people who reply with out reading the comments. This thread is CLOSED.

 

[DaveyDave]

I can't absolutely stand people who reply with out reading the comments. This thread is CLOSED.

Pot? Meet Kettle.

 

[Had a dad]

I can't absolutely stand people who reply with out reading the comments. This thread is CLOSED.

Sorry but you do not have the rights to determine what threads get closed. If you have any issues I would suggest that you contact forum staff. If you have any questions regarding this I would suggest you read my signature (the line in yellow)

Pot? Meet Kettle.

Do you really think that this was helpful? Rhetorical question btw, see the yellow line in my signature

 

[VonMarkko]

Seriously, not one reply to the question, lots of attitudes and mindless drool, and 2 PPL keep keep flaming after I close the topic. I am really questioning why I ever posted here in the first place. Good day.