GERMANY 1936, Death or Dishonor and patch 1.4 (aka Oak): general discussion

[Doom Juan]

A few questions:

1. What's your army look like by 1939?
2. What's your airforce look like by 1939?
3. How did you achieve both?
4. What do your combined forces look like on the eve of Operation Barbarossa/Invasion of USSR?

 

[mabus81]

I usually have :
65-70 (13 INF + 6 ART) Infanteriedivisionen (5 support batallions)
about 30 Sicherungsdivisionen (5 CAV)
15-20 Festungsdivisionen (5 INF + 2 ART)
4-6 Panzerdivisionen (6 LTANK + 4 MOT) (5 support batallions)

In terms of air force I got about 3000-3500 fighters, plus the bombers you got from the start.

The navy is the same as in the beginning, but plus the stuff in the production queue you have in the beginning, an additional battle cruiser and an aircraft carrier. Another aircraft carrier is usually ready and equipped in oct '39.

 

[smurfopax]

I normally go for a late Polen and have ready at 01-11-1939 the following

155 Infantry Divisions (7 Inf / 2 Art)
10 Alpine Divisions (7 Inf / 2 Art)
8 Paratroopers
3 Light Tank Divisions (6 Tanks / 4 Mot)
2 Medium Tank Divisions (4 Tanks / 2 MSPArt / 3 Mot)

800 BF 109 C (4/0/4/5 Variant)
300 each TAC/NAV/CAS

87 CIV
114 MIC
13 Synth.

+the Stockpiles

All the Factories from Polen will go into more FIghters and Tanks.

 

[Nevrion]

A few questions:

1. What's your army look like by 1939?
2. What's your airforce look like by 1939?
3. How did you achieve both?
4. What do your combined forces look like on the eve of Operation Barbarossa/Invasion of USSR?

1. Because of the focus tree I am forced to produce as much military as I can in the first 3 years. In the middle of '39 in most cases I am able to save East Prussia with 12 or more infantry divisions. For Poland I need 24 units, at least, mixed with mobile infantry and tanks (about 10) and 14+ infantry. The rest is at Maginot (about 30), Yugoslavia (about 15) and Netherlands (about 20). So summarized I have about 100 units, consisting of tanks (20 %), mobile (15 %), infantry (60 %) and 5 % other units.

2. I often don't build much airforce to this point. Depends on the situation. That changes in 1940 with new technology available. So probably it's only a little more than I have a the begin of 1936.

3. How? Starting to build civil factories in '36 (with NF support) and continue to build military factories and oil buildings. Need to build at least 6 infantry at the same time and about 2-3 tanks and mobile infantry. But I don't have a default way to do this. Because I always play non historical and with human players, things can change and against human players, I need to focus on other compilations. One thing for sure, If you want to do Anschluss in 1938 and doen't have enough army in field for that focus tree, something went wrong ^^

4. Because I don't play historical that depends on the situation. In 50 % of my games, attacking Soviet Union isn't necessary, but sometimes they declare war to me. (if Finland is in axis, for example)

 

[porta80]

Just did a small test run in SP
01.11.1939 Danzig or War fired.
92x Heavy Divisions 13/3/4 inf/mountaineers/arty 44 Width with Eng, Rec, Sup Art, Sup Anti Air, Signals
3x Med 2 Tanks, 7/3 20 width will be extendet later to 40 width with Eng, Rec, Signals + 3*3 more in the deployment queue building up lacking 300 mediums
25x Light Divisions 22 Width 11 inf with eng, rec, support arty + 25 in the deployment queue ready in 1 month fully equiped for the atlantic wall and maginot line
for suppression template is 5 cav, will be lined up after fall of poland


i did lend lease all my early fighters and early tac bombers to spain and japan + 2500 guns for the fight in spain per month wich lasted 13-14 month, didnt send volunteers though
didnt set up my airforce to easilier look up numbers all in stock
~3400 fighter 1 in 3 diffrent versions ~1,7 k basic, ~300 version A + 4 engine, rest verison b +3 reliability +3 range +5 engine
~500 cas 1
~330 tactical bombers 1
~250 nav bombers 1

110 MIC
10 NIC building my 4. Battleship 2
89 CIC - 56 free building stuff -4 are from trade income - im trading 20 away currently, changed to limited exports again +33 on consumer goods war economy (edit: i hate that the ai doesnt trade with germany at the beginning...)
5 synth + building 13 more
level 2 radar in Moselland currently increasing to level 3
checkeslovakia completly annexed
increased airfields in westfalen + 2
indreased airfield in rhineland + 2
build new airfield in moselland + 5

mic alocatet:
15 on guns 1 stockpile ~1k
15 on arty 2 stockpile ~3k just changed production from art1 to arty 2
5 on support stockpile ~1.7k
30 on fighter 1
5 on cas 1
5 on tactical bombers 1
1 on naval bombers 1
3 on anti air 1 stockpile ~1.1k
30 on medium 2 lacking around 300 because recruiting 3x3 divisions
1 on motorised stockpile ~1.1k needs to be increased later

1939 guns are resesarched but not set in production yet, because of concentrated industry and still building up, will be done after fall of poland.

detailed enough?
to lasy now to play through to barbarossa, but will be alot more until then^^
Probably could be improved by more micro not running speed 5.