German WW2 Projects Maus, Löwe E-100???

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I have read an small paper about Germans in the end of ww2.
And I was impressed.

And I wonder if there is anywhere on the web where they tell about it, and perhaps shows images of the inventions.
The ones I read about in the paper was the Maus, Löwe and E-100 Projects, which I have no idea what they are.
I also read that Infra-Red Imaging was introduced, so big as it was mounted on tanks.
And then later adapted to fit the Sturmgewehr 44. Anyone know about this? Or have site that tells about?

I appreciate all info

 

[Emperor of Europe]

IIRC the Jagdtiger was fitted with the very first IR-equipment.
You should be able to find heaps of info on the Maus on other projects at places like www.achtungpanzer.com and similar sites. Just follow the links and enjoy.

Regards,

EoE

 

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that link do not work now.

 

[Emperor of Europe]

Originally posted by Mikael XII
that link do not work now.

Sorry. Either I'm tired or it's been to long since I've been in Germany (got family connections in Bremerhaven).

Achtung is of course spelled just like that and not 'actung'.

I've edited and changed it in the original post.

Regards,

EoE

 

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Well....
Germans were and are quite skilled in creation of warmachines.
Maus and E-100 were prototypes of superheavy tanks
For example Maus was armed with long barelled 128mm gun and coaxial 75mm gun. It had extremaly thick armor.
This was a real monster but I think they exagerate a little....(unreliable due to huge weight)
Some Panthers(tanks) were equipped with infra red imaging (vision) but this device required additional projector mounted on halftracks.
Tanks could use it only with cooperation with special halftrack.
Sturmgewehr44 = assault rifle (something like Kalachnikov)....
They developed many prototypes of fine jet planes....
Yes, they had a lot of nice "toys for boys"

 

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Originally posted by EUfan

Yes, they had a lot of nice "toys for boys"

And all the boys have these toys nowadays.

The Germans invented the ballistic missile (the Scud and its derivatives is nothing but an A-4 rocket). They also invented the SAM and wire guided ATGM as well as the AAM. They were the first to deploy ASMs and of course cruise missiles.

The Sturmgewehr was the first assault rifle produced.

What few armies have reproduced are the German tactics, of course.

 

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Its really incredible when you think about all of the German military advances of the era..

BTW, does anyone know of the Amerika Bomber projects or is that just another silly myth?

 

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Originally posted by EUfan
Well....
Germans were and are quite skilled in creation of warmachines.
Maus and E-100 were prototypes of superheavy tanks
For example Maus was armed with long barelled 128mm gun and coaxial 75mm gun. It had extremaly thick armor.
This was a real monster but I think they exagerate a little....(unreliable due to huge weight)
Some Panthers(tanks) were equipped with infra red imaging (vision) but this device required additional projector mounted on halftracks.
Tanks could use it only with cooperation with special halftrack.
Sturmgewehr44 = assault rifle (something like Kalachnikov)....
They developed many prototypes of fine jet planes....
Yes, they had a lot of nice "toys for boys"

AFAIK, the AK-47 is a copy of the Sturmgewehr 44. Improved maybe
Referring to the prototype Panther II ? It was supposed to field the same gun as the Tiger.
Hardu :
I didn't know they had invented the SAM. Any site about it ?
Caramel :
Amerika bomber. I've read something about it not sure about its existance though.

 

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Yes the bomber was real, it actually flew close to US shores and returned.http://www.danshistory.com/ww2/germanb.html has what your want to know.

Hanny

 

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What do you know about german tanks used after war?
I know that france used some Panthers shortly after war.
Hetzers was used in Czechoslovakian army (made in Skoda)
I also heard about some PzKpfv IV and Panthers used in middle east (however I am not sure)

 

[Emperor of Europe]

Originally posted by EUfan
What do you know about german tanks used after war?
I know that france used some Panthers shortly after war.
Hetzers was used in Czechoslovakian army (made in Skoda)
I also heard about some PzKpfv IV and Panthers used in middle east (however I am not sure)

Was it... Syria? that used Pz-IV's and SG-IIIg's. I think so. I haven't heard about any Panthers though. I also seem to recall that some country flew the Bf-109 Messerschmidt for a few years after the war. That might have been Syria as well, though I am not sure at all.

Regards,

EoE

 

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Hi again,

I’ve been doing a bit of research on the post-WWII use of German armour. Here’s a bit of info.

Romania used the SG-IIIG until the early 1950s with the designation TAS T-III. So did Bulgaria. Here the designation was SO-75.

28 SG-IIIG’s were delivered to Syria and used until 1967.

A few landed in the armies of Norway (along with Pz-III’s), Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia.

The Pz-IV was used after the war in Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Finland, Egypt, Spain, Syria, Jordan and Turkey.

The Finns converted some to mine-clearing vehicles and used them for training purposes until 1962.

Syria used the Pz-IV until at least 1967, and there are some unconfirmed reports that a few later were shipped to Cuba.

Regards,

EoE

 

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The French army used Panthers after the war, and some were deployed to Indochina IIRC. They were quickly discarded, though, because they were maintenance headaches.

Spain produced Bf-109's under license both during and after the war, with Rolls-Royce Merlin Engines. The Swiss air force used the same kind of variant, but I'm not sure wether the post-war planes were Spanish-made or else.

Czechoslowakia had factories and they kept on making 109's after the war. Israël bought a few planes from the Czechs in '47 or '48 and used them in the independance war.

France got a few U-boats and torpedo-boats, but they were soon relegated to training duties or just discarded. US and Britain got U-boats too but never actually used them.

The Soviets got a few Italian warships, but no German ones AFAIK (except lots of U-boats but details on those are hard to find).

Generally speaking, the Germans were leading in aerospace engineering, while the US was leading in electronics, automation and (yes) hydrodynamics. And nuclear physics, of course.

Ballistics was pretty evenly shared. I'd give the Germans a slight lead in metallurgy, based on the welding jobs on their armor joints mostly but US castings were top-notch.

Overall, the alledged German technological edge is IMO a legend mostly due to their sexy aircraft and missile prototypes and projects. Proximity fuses and ground-mapping radars have a lot less visual impact.

 

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A couple of links on proposed "Amerika Bomber´s".

http://visi.net/~djohnson/prototyp/me264.html
http://visi.net/~djohnson/horten/ho18a.html
http://visi.net/~djohnson/horten/ho18b.html
http://visi.net/~djohnson/misc/sanger.html

 

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Finland used Stug IIIg's untill 1962. Messerschmit 109G's were used untill 1952.

 

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Thanx for info

I have another question...how many Tigers still exist?
Some King Tigers are in Russia (in Kubinka), in UK (Bovington) and in US. But I suppose Tiger I is rare. I know only about one in UK (Bovington)

 

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Originally posted by EUfan
Thanx for info

I have another question...how many Tigers still exist?
Some King Tigers are in Russia (in Kubinka), in UK (Bovington) and in US. But I suppose Tiger I is rare. I know only about one in UK (Bovington)

There's a Tiger I and a Tiger II at the Saumur museum (http://www.musee-des-blindes.asso.fr/blindes/som.htm), and a Tiger I in Vimoutier in Normandy (preserved as an outdoor monument of sort) (http://sboos.perso.ch/Normandie44/Histoires/Vimoutiers_Histoire.htm)

 

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Thanx again!
I didnt know France has such impressive collection.

 

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It would be interesting to know about the British, American and Soviet wonder weapons programs. I heard about the British developing a sound weapon.

 

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Thr problem for the Germans of these wonder weapons is that few of them were likely to be of any practical use in any reasonable timeframe. The superheavy tanks were never going to be of any practical use ever. And although they were working on both SAMs (ie wasserfall)and ATGMs they had a lot of problems with these projects.

The Me 262 was really introduced too early and was plagued with engine problems, and highly vulnerable on take off and landing to allied conventional fighters. As Chuck Yeager put it "The first time I ever saw a jet I shot it down." Had the war continued into 1946 it would have been up against Gloster Meteors and Shooting Stars.

To be added to this list though we should add German use of the helicopter, deployed at sea and on land as well, and also the invention of nerve gas.

Contrast this with Allied superiority in radar, and the atom bomb.

Re: IR eqpt. A Panther IR brigade destroyed a Soviet mechanised corps in a night attack in 1945.

Re: Pzkfw IV: Last use I am aware of is by the Syrians in the Six Day War in 1967. One account I read said they performed well, another said they were in poor condition and were largely used in a static role dug in as pillboxes