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IIRC Hungary must exist and all German states (including Austria) must be democracies. This is the liberal unification event. It is really difficult to achieve, short of becoming a democracy as Prussia and satelliting other German states.
 
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I did, as Prussia just yesterday.

It's difficult to make fire. What I did was start a war in 1838, and conquer all of Germany before 1850. Then all you need to do is be at peace with Austria (they need not be a con mon or democracy)

At that point, becoming Germany will become near instantaneous. Only problem is the MASSIVE badboy you accumulate. I had over 95 when all was said and done.
 

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Pikeman85 said:
I did, as Prussia just yesterday.

It's difficult to make fire. What I did was start a war in 1838, and conquer all of Germany before 1850. Then all you need to do is be at peace with Austria (they need not be a con mon or democracy)

At that point, becoming Germany will become near instantaneous. Only problem is the MASSIVE badboy you accumulate. I had over 95 when all was said and done.

But was there really anybody that could take you on anyway :p
 

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Taybaxter said:
IIRC Hungary must exist and all German states (including Austria) must be democracies. This is the liberal unification event. It is really difficult to achieve, short of becoming a democracy as Prussia and satelliting other German states.

AFAIK satelliting states doesn't change their government type.
 

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Eärendil said:
AFAIK satelliting states doesn't change their government type.

No but it is enough to make the event fire.
I've done the annexation bit btw. The Game is basically broken after you do it though.
 

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Dysken said:
No but it is enough to make the event fire.
I've done the annexation bit btw. The Game is basically broken after you do it though.
Broken? Why?
 

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Dysken said:
No but it is enough to make the event fire.

umm...how?
The event triggers have nothing regarding "is_satellite" conditions in them.
Maybe you are playing with a modded event?

- j
 

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IIRC, its enough to change the government provided that an election doesn't take place immediately afterward.

I know it changes the government in V:R, as I have tested this; I liberated the country of Siam while having a Communist government as Japan. Siam remained, decades later, a communist state without a communist majority in the population.

Similarily, I released Mongolia as Mexico while having a Democracy; in the beginning it stuck, but later Mongolia was fascist and had a presidential dictatorship which, as you know, can only be gained through change from Con Mon or Democracy which I had.

So yes, if done instantly at the same time with ALL the German minors and Austria, it can be done via sattelliting.
 

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Liberation and taking control of a country aren't quite the same.
 

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Taybaxter said:
IIRC Hungary must exist and all German states (including Austria) must be democracies. This is the liberal unification event. It is really difficult to achieve, short of becoming a democracy as Prussia and satelliting other German states.

Not super difficult though difficult. All you have to do is get a good war going prior to the Liberal Revolution and keep it going for some time. That way the revolt chance is already decently high and goes through the roof after the liberal revolution starts. With luck Austria and most of the minors will succumb to democratic revolution then you invade and annex the hold outs before the end of 1948. Naturally, you must be Prussia to do this.

The good news is if you pull it off then you'll be so far ahead of every other country that world conquest is fairly easy. Especially since your badboy is so high everyone will keep declaring war on you anyway.
 

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Easiest way to get Hungary released is simply to buy Bratislava off of Austria and then release it as Hungary.
 
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Not super difficult though difficult. All you have to do is get a good war going prior to the Liberal Revolution and keep it going for some time. That way the revolt chance is already decently high and goes through the roof after the liberal revolution starts. With luck Austria and most of the minors will succumb to democratic revolution then you invade and annex the hold outs before the end of 1948. Naturally, you must be Prussia to do this.

This is indeed the best strategy. You have to destroy all enemy troops, so thy cannot fight rebells anymore. Fast revolting countries are Baden, Hessen, Saxony and Hannovre. Sometime Bavaria too. The remaining one are really easy to conquer, though you earn a lot of BB doing this. You don't need Austria to revolt in Vanilla. To prepare for the "great unification war" you can sell everything possible, including techs to china and unusefull lands to Austria ( you can get them back later, once unfied). I would advice at least 9-12 Cavalry Divs and 20-30 infantry. Infantry is mainly to keep peace in your lands and occupied provinces. Also garrison FRA bordier, since FRA is most likly to dow you first...
 

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Oerdin said:
Or go to war with Austria and take a province of Hungary and then releasing it.

Easier to do as Dysken suggested.

Why?

Because you already have good relations with Austria.
Because Bratislava is not a core Austrian province and doesnt have (m)any Austrian national pops living there, thus its relatively cheaper to buy.
Because whats the point in war when you can do it for cheap AND if you are just going to end up getting all the Austrian provinces anyway if you do it right.

Edit: all you ever wanted to know about unifying Germany, whichever way takes your fancy.
 

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Does Austria have to be a const mon/democracy in ricky for it to work? I have every german minor satted and they are all const mons, so am i, at peace with austria, hungary exists, its 1842, but no event.
 

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Doesn't Germany have to be democratic?
 

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Dysken said:
Doesn't Germany have to be democratic?
Thats what I thought but the wiki says:

How does it work?

To achieve Popular Unification, there are certain requirements;

1. Prussia must be a democracy or constitutional monarchy.

2. All other minors must be democracies or constitutional monarchies.

3. Both these conditions must be met between 15th January 1836 and 30th December 185