German Icons by Holland

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Man you are a jet lover Must admit you where right. No cruise missile!

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The models are GER only. They wont overwrite the default Paradox ones. They will only show up for Germany.

 

[Rey]

The 2nd one is cool

 

[Plutarch]

I'm down for number two. And I'm very anxious to load up your finished work into a new game. Just bringing color to the models adds a nice touch to the game itself.

 

[Kaarle XII]

A little offtopic: Holland, where have you gotten those SS-runes from? I once downloaded them for HoI 1 but I haven't got them anymore...

 

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There is only one small negative thing I can think of with your land unit icons: the model tags are quite inconsistent. In the official HoI2 icons the infantry models have 1918, 1936 etc, all others have I, II, III, IV etc. You seem to be using a bit of both, airborne and marines have 1939 etc, paras and garrison have I, II etc. I've always thought it quite silly to talk about 1943 marines, since they are not available in 1944, motorized cav 39 is available 1937 etc. Quite confusing, to say the least. If you use the real model years instead of the Roman numerals why not use the actual historical year directly on the icon?

Btw Paradox should actually be paying you for this

Do you have any plans for making icons for any other nations? You could have some sort of generic icons for most of the things that are similar (inf, mtn etc) and use more specific icons where this is appropriate (tanks mainly).

Also, do you have any plans on making better brigade icons? I think the standard ones are rather boring...

 

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A little offtopic: Holland, where have you gotten those SS-runes from? I once downloaded them for HoI 1 but I haven't got them anymore...

Lagdogan made them for his Germanization pack.

http://www.stonyroad.de/viewtopic.php?t=2188

You will need to register there before you can download it.

 

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There is only one small negative thing I can think of with your land unit icons: the model tags are quite inconsistent. In the official HoI2 icons the infantry models have 1918, 1936 etc, all others have I, II, III, IV etc. You seem to be using a bit of both, airborne and marines have 1939 etc, paras and garrison have I, II etc. I've always thought it quite silly to talk about 1943 marines, since they are not available in 1944, motorized cav 39 is available 1937 etc. Quite confusing, to say the least. If you use the real model years instead of the Roman numerals why not use the actual historical year directly on the icon?

Btw Paradox should actually be paying you for this

Do you have any plans for making icons for any other nations? You could have some sort of generic icons for most of the things that are similar (inf, mtn etc) and use more specific icons where this is appropriate (tanks mainly).

Also, do you have any plans on making better brigade icons? I think the standard ones are rather boring...

Tbh for me personally there is no real inconsistancy. I based it on the 6 inf classes. All following sub div like paras, marines, mountain have years (also paras not on the screenies but in the release they have) For me it was a clean system to see how far advanced they where. Having a 44 unit in 43 will let you know instantly how advanced they are But i do realise its how you look at it. For the tanks and lesser units i still maintained the I II III system. Maybe it would be more clear to ad years to the lesser units but for tanks i like the I II III sys.

Pay noway lol i do this for fun

On the other hand a sticky would be nice so this thread wont go to waste. Tbh i am amazed its still floating down here I am beginning to understand why they all go to stonyroad.de

I have no real future plans so who knows.

Brigade icons well are boring but also very clear. Will see if it can be done.

 

[ville]

Gotta love the new luftwaffe *drawling* mmm....luftwaffe :rofl:

Incase no one notised that was a Homer simpson

 

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Some additional suggestions for the land unit icons:

Light tank: the models II and III look very similar, only difference is larger gun, but it's still quite hard to tell them apart. How about making one of them (the model III) another color? Or change the picture of the tank crew guy?

Mech inf: the difference now is that the small infantryman at the bottom changes to the corresponding type of inf. How about also changing the armored vehicle a bit? Either a different type of Sonderkraftfahrzeuge (for the four models use 11 (or 9), 250, 251 and 251/23) or use different camouflage for each model.

Paratrooper: the last model (1945) is a bit unclear. What is he doing in the picture? Holding his hand up with a black glove, pointing or waving? Why doesn't he have a gun like the others? (yeah, I might only be blind and/or stupid, just looks a bit strange to me). Give him a Panzerschreck or Panzerfaust or something similary cool

Headquarters: would be even cooler if you had a different type of vehicle for each model. Level I would be a Kübelwagen, lvl II would be SdKfz 261 and lvl III would be a 251/18.

Militia: model I and II are identical, would be nice if model II hade a different picture, with the model II guy holding a Panzerfaust.

Check out http://klub.chip.pl/krzemek/galeria.htm for some excellent pictures and data on all armored vehicles of the Wehrmacht, as well as the more important vehicles from other nations.

Btw those Luftwaffe icons are soooo cool, any idea when they will be ready?

 

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Points taken MadViking I bet there will be some rainy spring and summer days on which i will be bored and decide to try and make the units better.

Luftwaffe? Whats that?

Oh i remember!

All models are now in my game. I had to make some new plates as Paradox goofed up on a number of German planes.

All thats left is some slight retouching and maybe change 2 models (I am really not content with some) and then zip the buggers and release...... When? SOON !

 

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Sounds great, can't wait to get my hands on those planes.

Btw I saw the nice harbour icons you made (originally for HoI1), I installed it and tried it but found that it was quite hard to quickly see which ports were empty and which ones had ships in them. I thought about it and then I changed them myself, in a very simple way: the two empty ports (both small and big) I turned into black/white, and the ports with ships are as before (in color, with small ships showing). I realy recommend you try this, it takes like 1 minute to change it, or I can send it to you or post a screenshot.

Btw do you have any plans on making a better airfield as well?

 

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Looks different yep. Better? Depends mostly personal taste i think. Its somewhat easier to spot full harbours true. Idea is good btw So i prob release that idea and let ppl choose.

Airfield ah i have one already made based on my hoi 1 Some ppl already have asked me to use them so i will release them when i release the luftwaffe.

 

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Because its sad i will not make release today i have to make it up. Hope you like the top notch Luftwaffe units with new plates.

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I do promise it wont take me longer then 2 weeks to finish

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

Paratrooper: the last model (1945) is a bit unclear. What is he doing in the picture? Holding his hand up with a black glove, pointing or waving? Why doesn't he have a gun like the others? (yeah, I might only be blind and/or stupid, just looks a bit strange to me). Give him a Panzerschreck or Panzerfaust or something similary cool

In fact, he is reaching out for another hamburger.

 

[Rey]

That's cool stuff

 

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Very good work Holland, I simply love the Falschirmjager and Wehrmacht icons!
The LW aircraft are simply outstanding! I happen to be a LW enthusiast

Because i'm an enthusiast, I'd like to make an observation: The Friedrichs, the Me109F's, generally had no wing cannons, only about 250 had them, and they were a field modification. Adolf Galland used wing gunpods, however.

Everything else is just perfect! Thanks

 

[Plutarch]

I do promise it wont take me longer then 2 weeks to finish

How about we do an interim release of what you have now? The images you have now are outstanding and I'd see a big improvement in my own games. If we wait until they are *perfect* then we might never see them. Plus, these are the type of updates that can be applied very easily.

 

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@ Zellot But you gotta love them guns!

@ Plutarch Nice try I totally agree but its stronger then me. Dont worry the two weeks was a joke its done now and just some minor stuff has to be done. Today or tommorow you will have em.

 

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RELEASED March 19 2005

** General Airfield for HOI2.
** German Luftwaffe completly remade with high quality colored pictures.

It has been a hell of a job doing this. It was one big fight to maintain as much detail as i could and to maintain the designs which where so unique in the German Luftwaffe. I made some very good icons and some less but personally i think the average quality is good enough to let you judge for yourself. I really hope it will enhance your gaming experiance together with my other German units. This project took me more then 120 hours OMG i am crazy!

So guys and girls have fun with them and enjoy!

Download link in signature or top of this post.

 

[Zebedee]

Absolutely awesome - thank you