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Faeelin said:
Again, historical. I'm actually concerned that certain people will find the Social Front attractive.

It's not that they are attractive (they are not), it is that there is no 'normal' conservative party in France. Short of holding one's nose and voting Radical in the hope it will lock out the communists, the only choice is staying home or switching to the Social Front.

If you are a moderate conservative who disagrees with (for instance) laïcité you don't really have anywhere else to go.
 

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RossN said:
It's not that they are attractive (they are not), it is that there is no 'normal' conservative party in France. Short of holding one's nose and voting Radical in the hope it will lock out the communists, the only choice is staying home or switching to the Social Front.

If you are a moderate conservative who disagrees with (for instance) laïcité you don't really have anywhere else to go.

I disagree; there's the Right Republican Federation, for instance. Indeed, many of La Rocque's supporters are drawn from the traditional right.

But, he isn't quite Fascist.
 

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Faeelin said:
Many on the right had supported Italy’s intervention in Ethiopia, as Italy, “as a growing nation”, needed colonies and land for its burgeoning people.

What does de la Rocque think of Mussolini and Italian fascism?
 

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Karelian said:
What does de la Rocque think of Mussolini and Italian fascism?

Ah, a tricky question. If you look at some of the stuff he wrote or said, then it woudl seem clear that he thought French history "excluded a fascist dictatorship, Hitlerian absolutism, and the inhuman slavery of Soviet Marxism." Yet on Mussolini himself? La Rocque often praised Mussolini, and thought that France and Italy shared "identical intellectual connections."
 

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Been following this for some time and its excellent. Enjoyed the last update with the Coldplay lyrics.

Keep up the good luck.
 

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The Road Through No Wither: The People's Front and the Spanish Civil War


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The Spanish Civil War's origins can probably be traced back decades, if not centuries [1]. Yet most people would agree that some sort of armed struggle became inevitable in 1931, when the Spanish king was overthrown and the Second Republic formed. A coalition of leftist groups, from leftist-liberals to Socialists and Anarchists formed a provisional government, which made serious efforts at reform. The Jesuits were dissolved, divorce was legalized, schools were built, and efforts at land reform were made. Yet internal divisions meant that the provisional government was replaced with a right-wing coalition in 1933, which promptly set about trying to undo the government’s reforms.

With the Spanish Right in power, landowners began cutting wages, boycotting unionized labor, and generally making life unpleasant for landless agricultural workers. The government also cracked down on strikes , radicalizing Spain’s workers. The volatile situation finally exploded with an attempted social revolution in Asturia, which was ruthlessly suppressed. Even the Socialist Press was banned, and did not emerge again until the beginning of 1936.

Naturally, this tended to upset Spain’s left, and in the aftermath there was a widespread realization among Republicans and all left-wing political forces of the need to form a common front. Miguel Azaña, President between 1931 and 1933 and leader of the Republican Left [2], was among the earliest advocates of such a platform, proposing an alliance with the Socialists. [3]

Thus, the People’s Front was born.

Changing the Condition of Politics: Election of the People’s Front​

The manifesto for the People’s Front was announced in early January, and given the Front’s members it was surprisingly modest. It called for an increasing tempo of reform, picking up where the leftist provisional government had picked off. The Peole’s Front called for protection of the right to strike, more public works, more funding for schools, new tenancy laws, and easier access to credit for Spain’s peasants. Azaña, speaking for the movement, stated that “we must change the condition of politics so that the masses do not continue in the state they were in 1934. We must convert them to democracy, for this is the only formula for the salvation of the Republic and the prosperity of the Spanish people.” [4]

While the Spanish Communist Party was hesitant about the election, (people were afraid that involving the Communists would alienate much of the bourgoiese left, a dissident Communist group, the Spanish Workers’ Unified Marxist Party, did agree to join in the Popular Front. [5] The Right, for its part, warned that the People’s Front would lead to “the dissolution of the army, burning of banks, and the distribution of your women.” Faced with such rhetoric, the election of February was astonishingly close. The People’s Front won 4.65 million votes, the center 526,000, and the right 4.5 million. [6] In most nations, this would result in a deadlocked legislature; but Spain’s constitution gave whoever won a majority a much stronger position in the Cortes than one would expect. Thus, The People’s Front won 256 seats, the right 139, and the center 57.

And then things got messy.

The Road to Civil War​

The People’s Front had never been that organized; the extent of cooperation was compiling a list of campaign promises and choosing which delegates would run for office, and tensions between the parties reemerged. Political violence reached new heights, while rumors of a military coup swirled throughout Spain along with talks of an anarchist rising. The tinderbox that was Spain only needed a match to light it; and when the military launched a coup, it found one.

So it was that by the end of August, as French and Italian military equipment poured into Spain, the Spanish Civil War had begun.

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[1] To the failure to reform the agricultural system, and all that flowed from that.

[2] A Spanish political party.

[3] My initial thought was that if the Soviets were more hesitant about a Popular Front, one might not emerge; but after reading about the situation, the idea wasn’t just tossed around by the Communist Party. So, Viva La Alianza Obrera!

[4] A historical speech. Clearly, a wild eyed radical.

[5] There’s a bit more going on than this, but I don’t think you really want to read about backroom deals about who’s listed on what ballots.

[6] My initial thought was that sans the Popular Front, the Spanish right would win the election, but after reading about conditions in the country I became less convinced. As noted, the idea of a common front was, well, popular; and a lot of the Communist voters were attracted because of their promise to work with the Popular Front for the moment. Moreover, while I credit the Left with winning by 150,000 votes, this is one of the more conservative estimates. And when the best estimates of the Communist Party’s votes are around 220,000, well.

I’ll grant you the situation would be even more hilarious if the Left won by tens of thousands of votes.
 

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A solid update! Wonderful to read and slip into this stream of pleasant democratic Germany fantasy :D

Speaking of which, what is the German response to this Fascist rising?
 

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Faeelin said:
I disagree; there's the Right Republican Federation, for instance. Indeed, many of La Rocque's supporters are drawn from the traditional right.

But, he isn't quite Fascist.

Hmm, for some reason when you didn't mention them competing in the last election I had figured the traditional right had collapsed.

I think a Nationalist victory in Spain would be more interesting, but is very unlikely with the French and (presumably) the Germans backing Madrid.
 

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Are you trying for a lefty leaning history or is just personal taste coming through?

I only ask because all the right wing parties are always 'cracking down', 'opressing' and generally being unpleasant, while the left wing policies are always 'reform' with nothing nasty at all. Which isn't really the case, for instance I think 'land reform' is normally a code word for stealing people's land with little or no compensation. Equally large piles of fluffy labour laws do force firms out of business, while 30s Trade Unions (like their 1970s brothers) were often more interested in political strikes and revolution than actual working conditions.

I'm not expecting any change in style, or even particularly wanting one, I'm just wondered if it's a concious choice or something sub-concious seeping through? (And now I'm wondering if something similar happens in my updates.)
 

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El Pip said:
Are you trying for a lefty leaning history or is just personal taste coming through?

I would say a little bit of both.

But don't forget, all we have seen so far are: The Nazis and Fascists. Stalin is still off killing millions of people, it's just that it's not really relevent and so hasn't been mentioned.

(Leaving aside the thorny questions of whether or not such systems fit onto the Left-Right axis).

Once the SCW gets in swing, you will get to see the purges in Anarchist Catalonia, the burning of churches, and the unpleasant stuff that hit both sides.

Which isn't really the case, for instance I think 'land reform' is normally a code word for stealing people's land with little or no compensation.

Sure, it is. But is it necessary at times? And can it be done peacefully? Certainly, I would say it's unhealthy for nations to have massive inbalances in wealth.

I do think you're a bit of a pessimist, though. For instance, you see moves towards an EU as a bid by Stresemannto dominate Europe rather than an attempt to stop another war which would leave millions dead.
 

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RossN said:
Hmm, for some reason when you didn't mention them competing in the last election I had figured the traditional right had collapsed.

I think a Nationalist victory in Spain would be more interesting, but is very unlikely with the French and (presumably) the Germans backing Madrid.

Don't be so sure about a Republican victory.
 

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Faeelin said:
Sure, it is. But is it necessary at times? And can it be done peacefully? Certainly, I would say it's unhealthy for nations to have massive inbalances in wealth.

I do think you're a bit of a pessimist, though. For instance, you see moves towards an EU as a bid by Stresemannto dominate Europe rather than an attempt to stop another war which would leave millions dead.
In which case pretty much any nation in history is unhealthy, save the various communist dictatorships which were even worse.

The problem with land reform is either you pay a fair price, in which case the imbalance remains, or you under pay (or seize it) in which case your saying state controlled theft is OK which is an exceptionally slippery slope that normally ends in dictatorship or violence.

As for pesimism I call it realism, though the most commonly used phrase is cynicism so I'll concede to the majority. ;)
 

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El Pip said:
In which case pretty much any nation in history is unhealthy, save the various communist dictatorships which were even worse.

I think there's a bit of a difference between, say, America, and a nation like China or Spain in the 1930s.

You're right that land reform has to be handled carefully, but the alternative is either: a rural elite with disproportionate control over the country, and a frustrated lower class which sees no way out; or a revolution.

But I think you'll be happier with the next post.
 

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Upon a Cross of Fire, Part 2​

It appears that even La Rocque was surprised by the Party’s electoral success in 1936, and soon moved to take advantage of the situation. Despite the Popular Front’s election, and mutterings of “H-Hour” in the FSP Press, La Rocque made no effort to topple the Popular Front. Like many on the Right, he thought the French people would learn the error of their ways in short order: “France,” he wrote, “is going to have the government she has chosen. When this government fails, then it will be the time for right thinking Frenchmen to act; but we shall act only in a legal and constitutional manner.” Such words lost his party thousands of members, but gained it tens of thousands more, convinced of La Rocque’s respect for the law. Although La Rocque did not take a seat in the Chamber of Deputies, he directed policy for his party and was, suddenly, respectable.

The Social Party’s rise after the election was helped by the wave of sit-down strikes that followed the Popular Front’s victory. As the Red Flag flew from factories and apartments across France, it seemed, in the words of the Parisian Le Temps, that: “It appears with blinding certitude that the formation of the Popular Front has screened an offensive determined to establish a dictatorship of the proletariat in France.”

Ultimately, the Popular Front government intervened to settle the wave of striekes by granting workers a wide range of concessions, ranging from wage increases to collective bargaining in the Matignon Accords of June 7. Yet this did not end the strikes, which continued to rock France. Hotel staffs went on strike, forcing unhappy guests to make their own beds, while restaurants closed across the nation. Rumors of union organizers forcing nonstrikers to fall into line, and even those sympathetic to the workers thought they had begun to aspire to political ends.

Meanwhile, Blum’s economic dreams soon foundered. Even before the election, an unbalanced budget and towering deficits had threatened the economy, but Blum’s plans to increase pensions, spend more on the unemployed, and maintain the franc’s value only worsened the situation. Meanwhile, the wage increases had led to a rise inprices, while the establishment of a forty-hour work week reduced productivity. More long term problems remained in the French economy, thanks to years of neglect. While the iron and steel industry had done well from postwar construction, dominance by a variety of small family firms hindered modernization and investment. As a result, even in 1936 steel and car iron production were barely half that of 1929. The army, for its part, was furious that Blum was proposing even more cuts in their budget, such as scrapping construction of the Maginot Line. [1]

Yet it would not be any domestic challenges which slew Blum and the Popular Front. It would be the Spanish quagmire that undid the Third Republic.

Spain​

The Spanish Civil War had not begun in earnest before its effects were felt across the Pyrenees. . In France, Léon Blum greeted news of the coup with dismay, and by July 22 had formed a plan to provide the Republican government with munitions. Although Blum initially hesitated, he soon changed his mind when word reached him that Mussolini had already promised to aid Franco and the Nationalist forces. [2] The initial supplies included approximately thirty bombers, several thousand bombs, a considerable number of 75 mm. guns; a pale shadow of what was to follow, but at the time a significant delivery. [3] Mussolini, in response, upped the ante and provided more munitions to Spain, and soon a suspicious number of volunteers flocked to the Nationalists’ banner. [4]

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Striking Workers

French support for the Spanish Republic infuriated many in France, and threatened to bring down the Blum government. Blum, however, stayed firm, particularly after discovering that Italy was using its aircraft to send revolutionaries to Spain. “Our duty,” he declared, “is to aid our Spanish friends, whatever the consequences that may flow from that support.”

And so the shipments were sent, and arrived in August, where they played a vital role in the defense of Madrid. Arm shipments continued in the months to come, paid for with Spanish gold. Since France’s arms industry had been nationalized, this also led to the accusation that Blum was profiting from the blood of Spain. The radicalization of the Spanish Civil War, meanwhile, was radicalizing French society. Workers staged sympathy strikes across the nation, while bankers in Lyons fretted about a potential “Red Terror.”

In Spain itself, the Republican controlled areas descended into an orgy of violence, as years of pent-up frustration on both sides came loose. Papers in France screamed of assaults on nuns and priests, while anarchists and socialists engaged in class warfare. Blum remained convinced that propping up the Republicans in Madrid was the best way to control the social dimension of the conflict, but where Blum saw a conflict between democracy and tyranny, others saw a conflict between order and Communism.

To this day, there is still debate over who killed Léon Blum, France’s first Socialist Premier. Eyewitnesses blamed everyone from Italian fascists to Spanish anarchists, although the consensus blames frustrated youth from France’s right-wing. Who killed him in the end hardly matters; for he was, in many ways, just one more casualty of the Civil War. And unfortunately for France, he would not be the last.

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The Spanish Front Lines

[1] Are all the reactionaries happy?

[2] Historically Mussolini hesitated at first, but here he’s been humiliated by the League of Nations and views Spain as a way to recoup some prestige.

[3] Okay, historically France did not intervene in the Civil War. But Blum wanted to, and was only dissuaded by the attitude of Cabinet members, rumors of German troops moving to the Rhineland, and fears of Britain’s response, since he needed to keep Britain close due to the German threat. The other thing he was afraid of was civil war in France, but I think he could have, and would have, pressed ahead.

[4] This is slightly earlier than historical, but not significantly. Again, Mussolini is trying to push in Spain for a way to regain legitimacy.
 

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Faeelin said:
[1] Are all the reactionaries happy?

With His Majesty Jean Pierre Clément Marie d'Orléans, Duc de Guise not on his rightful throne? :eek:

Never! ;)

Poor Blum. Poor France. Poor Spain.
 

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You right, I do like that update. :D

I do look forward to the French left crying as the right gets a turn at 'reform', best of all they'll have no one to blame but themselves for being greedy and self-indulgent. 'Sympathy strikes' indeed.

Not sure about this bit though;
Faeelin said:
but where Blum saw a conflict between democracy and tyranny, others saw a conflict between order and Communism.
Surely Blum and others are both right, Spain is democratic order verses the tyranny of Communism. :)
 

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The AAR in which there is no a SCW is not a real AAr :D

And now a French Civil War too?

My gosh...

RossN said:
Poor Blum. Poor France. Poor Spain.

Poor Europe.