take mappa regnorum mod for ck1 as a base to build upon, paradox
This!
Seriously.
Geographic hiccups!
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This!
Seriously.
Take Mappa Regnorum mod for CK1 as a base to build upon, Paradox
+1, since I already have suggested this myself here several times.
IIRC I saw a screenshot of the culture map mode, which showed a Croatian culture in the corner of the screen. While I can't say that means they've decided to take the risk of adding actual cultures in instead of the generic south slavic tag, it's clear there's one less group in that tag if it indeed still exists.
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What do you know, he's right:
http://gamescom.gamespot.com/image_viewer.html?sid=6329265&pid=605285&img=5
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Why so much surprise, Nick?
Map modding might be the answer, but I also think that a lot of fiefs can be designated as baronies. Like other things the map has to represent a lot of landholding and political realities. So I think that things will fit in Germany, England, France but be a bit more awkward away from the center of the map.
Why so much surprise, Nick?
Map modding might be the answer, but I also think that a lot of fiefs can be designated as baronies. Like other things the map has to represent a lot of landholding and political realities. So I think that things will fit in Germany, England, France but be a bit more awkward away from the center of the map.
Modding is not the answer, especially since paradox claims CK2 to betheir most polished game ever. Stupid nonsense going on in Poland, for example, would be an equivalent of having 'London' province placed in Cornvall to set you in perspective. I could handwave such a thing if this was Medieval Total War 3, but not here.
Also, it might be even more fantasy-like elsewhere, where there's less 'Wikipedian' research - I shiver at a thought how outskirts of map would look like.
Modding is not the answer, especially since paradox claims CK2 to betheir most polished game ever. Stupid nonsense going on in Poland, for example, would be an equivalent of having 'London' province placed in Cornvall to set you in perspective. I could handwave such a thing if this was Medieval Total War 3, but not here.
Also, it might be even more fantasy-like elsewhere, where there's less 'Wikipedian' research - I shiver at a thought how outskirts of map would look like.
This is also true
Modding is not the answer, especially since paradox claims CK2 to betheir most polished game ever. Stupid nonsense going on in Poland, for example, would be an equivalent of having 'London' province placed in Cornvall to set you in perspective. I could handwave such a thing if this was Medieval Total War 3, but not here.
Also, it might be even more fantasy-like elsewhere, where there's less 'Wikipedian' research - I shiver at a thought how outskirts of map would look like.
I was thinking of Iberia, where a lot of things are still kind of odd with the map, but at least the names of places are pretty much where they should be. I admit my ignorance of Polish geography, but my point was that some places might be represented by baronies rather than become full-fledged counties. I fear that there will have to be some map modding unless the development team spends some serious time working out the issues that have been raised.
Sure - I don't think that addictional provinces are needed. It would suffice to have existing ones in correct places with correct names.
IMHO more provinces would even be better, but that's more likely mod-material.
I will give you a straight answer to the more provinces question. The answer is a no. Each province needs a holder for every single date from 1066 to 1337. This is a lot of work for the provinces we already have. I know that you do have a valid point that adding just one more province isn't that much work, but at the end of the day would you, as the community, actually agree to a single province addition and exactly what it would be? I don't think so, you'd probably just ask for another one after that. However, to show that we do actually care, what we are going to do is this. We are going to resculpt the external borders of the duchies of Bohemia Morovia and Silesia to see if we can get the to look a bet less boxey and a bit more historical. It isn't going to please everyone, but it will be a step in the right direction.
What about Poland? Does it still have most of its provinces named incorrectly and placed randomly on the map?
In the case of Poland we have just recently received a map revision from our crack Beta team and looking to get it into the game.
That is really good to hear. Because the external borders were really AWFUL, especially if one looks how accurate France now is
THANKS for that
and yes, I totally agree and understand that adding provinces makes no sense and the community would never agree, even if the limit was 10.
That is really good to hear. Because the external borders were really AWFUL, especially if one looks how accurate France now is
THANKS for that
I fully agree that the borders there do look awful, for us it is simply a question of time. The map is being gradually overhauled to improve it. France for example is done. We will be continuing to work on the map, as and when we have time, from now until release to make the very best map we can. It will never please everyone, but hopefully we can please a few more people.
King, when it comes to adding more provinces, if the limiting factor for you guys is historical information (being Eu3 dedicated modder i know what youre talking about), why dont you guys make a, sort of contest thread, where people would come up with new provinces ideas, but only those who are also provided with information on holders (1066 to 1337) will be considered? I can bet that there will be people who will even provide you with flags (in whatever form you need for game) just to have province X included in official game.
So for example, if you have 20 people asking for one more province in Bohemia or Poland, and they provide you with province shape (maps etc), history (i bet you can find a lot more information about Polish history in Polish sources than on Wikipedia) and possibly flag, and if that new province fits into your design philosophy (size, over all number etc), then all you have to do is check data and if ok add it. In EU3 with a good map, history data and sample flag i can add a new province, country, flag, history and localization entry in about 5 minutes, assuming CK2 is anything like that, it cant take more than 10 minutes (for whatever additional mechanics you need to cover).
Id also be willing to help with this, if you need more manpower for this type of work.
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Thank you very very much - anything will be better than the current status, so I will be surely among the pleased ones ;-)
Lord if only it was that simple. It is not enough to have the holders of the province, you also need thier relationship with the other characters in the game. Dry ruler lists are not enough. This is not easy as it sounds, to give you an idea of the kind of digging we have to do. The Seljuk rulers of Kerman, the English Wikipeadia page gives us Iran Shah (1096-1101) followed by Arslan Shah (1101-1142) now they are both Seljuks and related, but what is the relationship between the two men? Now I did finally get a realtionship and it is the one we have the game now, but it took some serious looking about to find it. You can have fun testing looking if you want. Thus not only do we have to send the time editing the map and adding the province, inputting the file, edditing the landed title file to give a dejur Kingdom and Duchy but we also need to verify that the people are actually right and connect together properly. So we won't be doing this, the overhead work we have on top we simply don't want to do for a public release where the content reflects on us.
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