Genoa. Need I say more?

[brxbrx]

Does anyone else experience uber-Genoa in their games? The merchant republic just goes berserk and conquers everything that moves. It's weird.

And once, I saw Genoa racked with civil war. I was happy, thinking that they would be brought down for the game. But in the end Genoa just became Venice.

 

[Accrsd]

i don't quite mind the power of Genoa. what i do mind is the company of the hat who's constantly doing their beck and call for them and only them.. seriously what's up with that?

 

[Arokel]

I have never experienced Super Genoa before. Usually gets swallowed by France or the HRE.

 

[brxbrx]

It's not the power that troubles me. Actually, I'm not so much troubled as I am curious. Why is Genoa so aggressive and imperialistic?

 

[Sam L]

It's pretty strong in my game too. It has conquered most of south eastern France and Piedmont and other areas.

 

[Nessaj]

It's not the power that troubles me. Actually, I'm so much troubled as I am curious. Why is Genoa so aggressive and imperialistic?

I think they have conquest CBs against all coastal provinces which is why they tend to blob along the Italian and French coast.

 

[unmerged(509501)]

I have noticed the same thing. They seem to take a decent chunk of spain and come close to unifying italy, all of which is made stranger by the fact that the historically more aggressive Venice will sit around doing absolutely nothing for the entire game

 

[Talq]

They both have the same CB type (can attack any coastal province), but Genoa tends to start by hitting one of the three OPMs in southern italy, then moving on from there (as the normans invariably disintegrate). Venice on the other hand gets to face a fairly substantial croatia, and the very substantial, and not disintegrating Byzantines.

Although Venice rarely moves even if the Byzantines have a 'accident' or Croatia gets into one of its prolonged civil wars.

 

[Jia Xu]

The AI will use its CBs if it can get away with it. Republics have infinite CBs against all coastal cities. Republics naturally make a lot of money too, so they freely use mercenaries to conquer the beaches of the world.

 

[Arokel]

The AI will use its CBs if it can get away with it. Republics have infinite CBs against all coastal cities. Republics naturally make a lot of money too, so they freely use mercenaries to conquer the beaches of the world.

And achieve world domination through tourism!!!

 

[generalolaf]

If they grab a bit of Sicily before they get eaten by the HRE, they tend to get powerful. I like it, unless I'm in Sicily.

 

[unmerged(462833)]

And once, I saw Genoa racked with civil war. I was happy, thinking that they would be brought down for the game. But in the end Genoa just became Venice.

I just started my new game in Byzantine - from the beginning on patch 1.08. There is only one Doge on map - Doge of Abkhazia who is my vassal. Byzantines and HRE are raging everywhere, Venice was captured by HRE and there is a count there, Genoa is a small Duchy in county of Nicea and is a vassal of HRE. In my game on a patch 1.07 HRE and ERE had serious problem with indepencence league and had more problems inside realm. Now I am disappointed with this patch - they can't be stop. I was really suprised when Byzantine crushed Fatimid and Seljuk invading them together. With HRE and ERE so strong smaller realms - even republcs with interesting casus belli don't have chances to stay alive.

 

[The Bishop]

And achieve world domination through tourism!!!

If they take the Spanish southern coast, Britain will be powerless to resist their nefarious package holidays!

 

[BlackBarook]

It's not the power that troubles me. Actually, I'm not so much troubled as I am curious. Why is Genoa so aggressive and imperialistic?

I agree. I can understand Genoa taking single provinces chunks from around the Mediterranean but it has been acting aggressive in almost all the games that it gained independence. If I don't pacific Iberia fast enough then Genoa would be one of the states I'd be dealing with.

 

[Gunnarr]

The genoa in my game currently has all of southern italy.

 

[The Dondarrion]

As Sicily, I conquered Genoa pretty early on. They had managed to conquer Capua and Napoli before I dejured both those counties and went on to fabricate claim against Genoa proper.

But yea it varies game by game. I've seen them conquer the Spanish coast, southern France, and most Mediterranean islands before succumbing to factions.

 

[Hackworthy]

I rarely see Genoa become that powerful but in my current game the Mezzogiorno is divided between Genoa and Venice. Venice also controls the northwestern coast of Croatia and the northeastern coast of Italy, Genoa also controls Nice and the entire Duchy of Sardinia-Corsica.

 

[Ravenous.BE]

Genoa or any other merchant republic tends to blob a lot in my games. I don't mind it really, it gives good balance against the muslims. What I do mind is when I conquer them late in the game, and I'm stuck with the Lord Mayors that hate my guts.

 

[The Dondarrion]

As Sicily, I conquered Genoa pretty early on. They had managed to conquer Capua and Napoli before I dejured both those counties and went on to fabricate claim against Genoa proper.

But yea it varies game by game. I've seen them conquer the Spanish coast, southern France, and most Mediterranean islands before succumbing to factions.

 

[Bezborg]

Genoa is like Hitler in all my games since LOR