Genoa is buffed again

[AlphaSonic]

What do you think about the fact that Genoa gets buffed in every expansion? Aliens?

Proof:

-Res Publica => Merchant Republics OP
-Art of War => He has 2 more provinces (Lesbos i suppose and another one) And crimea gets nerfed.

Francophobes, France got buffed, he gets one more province Languedoc was split.
Castillians, Castile got more provinces (2 or 3).

I couldn't notice more changes in the map except Theodosian dark blue. And north africa and aztec split.

 

[V1ribus]

Every expansion? How'd they get buffed in CoP?

 

[balmung60]

Because Merchant Republic colonial nations are hilariously OP (automatic +50% goods produced, minimum), making them the best nations to go colonizing as.

 

[V1ribus]

Because Merchant Republic colonial nations are hilariously OP (automatic +50% goods produced, minimum), making them the best nations to go colonizing as.

A CN doesn't get the government form of its overlord upon formation though (was it changed in 1.6/1.7?), what's your point?
e: Have I misread you?
e2: Don't worry, I just read that in a different light.

 

[Outrider]

A CN doesn't get the government form of its overlord upon formation though (was it changed in 1.6/1.7?), what's your point?
e: Have I misread you?

CNs transfer 50% of their TP to their overlord.

Nations in trade nodes get a bonus to goods produced of 1.0 x (MR trade share).

So if your CNs have (before transfer) 100% control of all new world trade nodes, they transfer 50% of the total trade share to you, so each CN province gets +0.5 goods produced.

This boosts your income two ways:
1) More trade value is generated and moves downstream, allowing you to earn more trade income where you collect.
2) Your CNs get more trade income and more production income, which translates to more tariffs for you.

 

[Viperswhip]

Well, Jake is playing Genoa now, and the bloodhounds at Paradox follow him around and nerf the ever loving crap out of everything he succeeds at, and any time someone posts a successful Byzantium strategy they bring out their blades.

Please stop posting Byz strategies here, we need to find a 3rd party site that is totally private and requires a blood oath of confidentiality, non disclosure and a sworn statement that you do not work for Paradox and do not know or intend to contact any Paradox employees at pain of death.

 

[balmung60]

CNs transfer 50% of their TP to their overlord.

Nations in trade nodes get a bonus to goods produced of 1.0 x (MR trade share).

So if your CNs have (before transfer) 100% control of all new world trade nodes, they transfer 50% of the total trade share to you, so each CN province gets +0.5 goods produced.

This boosts your income two ways:
1) More trade value is generated and moves downstream, allowing you to earn more trade income where you collect.
2) Your CNs get more trade income and more production income, which translates to more tariffs for you.

And 3.) Since your CNs also make more money due to higher production and trade income of their own, they build more buildings (and sooner) and colonize more (and sooner) o their own, leading to even more tax, production, and trade income, meaning even more tariffs.

Basically, a colonial nation controlled by a merchant republic is categorically superior to the same colonial nation controlled by anyone else.

 

[V1ribus]

CNs transfer 50% of their TP to their overlord.

Nations in trade nodes get a bonus to goods produced of 1.0 x (MR trade share).

So if your CNs have (before transfer) 100% control of all new world trade nodes, they transfer 50% of the total trade share to you, so each CN province gets +0.5 goods produced.

This boosts your income two ways:
1) More trade value is generated and moves downstream, allowing you to earn more trade income where you collect.
2) Your CNs get more trade income and more production income, which translates to more tariffs for you.

And 3.) Since your CNs also make more money due to higher production and trade income of their own, they build more buildings (and sooner) and colonize more (and sooner) o their own, leading to even more tax, production, and trade income, meaning even more tariffs.

Basically, a colonial nation controlled by a merchant republic is categorically superior to the same colonial nation controlled by anyone else.

Did neither of you see this?

e2: Don't worry, I just read that in a different light.

 

[Outrider]

Did neither of you see this?

e2 wasn't there when I typed my reply. :-/

 

[V1ribus]

e2 wasn't there when I typed my reply. :-/

Darn

 

[Thund91]

Genoa best WC nation in 1.8. You heard it here folks.

 

[AurochsAway]

Genoa best WC nation in 1.8. You heard it here folks.

Of course. What other country has such early access to both the western majors and the eastern majors at game start?

 

[Johan]

Because Merchant Republic colonial nations are hilariously OP (automatic +50% goods produced, minimum), making them the best nations to go colonizing as.

Definitely not intended.

 

[Johan]

Genoa best WC nation in 1.8. You heard it here folks.

in 1.7, Cherokee and Genoa can conquer the world easily, as they can get infinite money

 

[V1ribus]

in 1.7, Cherokee and Genoa can conquer the world easily, as they can get infinite money

I'm yet to see this exploit, presumably because I've not played the game for a month or so; could you explain this for me?

 

[TheBoozehammer]

Where did you hear about Genoa getting more provinces? Did I miss something?

 

[Golladan]

Where did you hear about Genoa getting more provinces? Did I miss something?

The stream?

 

[TheBoozehammer]

The stream?

Thanks, i have been away for a few days.

 

[Thund91]

I'm yet to see this exploit, presumably because I've not played the game for a month or so; could you explain this for me?

Me too. Every time I play Genoa my income isn't good enough and I get DOW'd by Ottomans, Aragon, and France once they get their stupid Italian missions.

 

[heliostellar]

Me too. Every time I play Genoa my income isn't good enough and I get DOW'd by Ottomans, Aragon, and France once they get their stupid Italian missions.

Get some allies?