Generals, Generals Everywhere

[JScott991]

So I've noticed a side effect of the new retinue system is that it creates a courtier/general every time I raise a regiment.

This means that my court is incredibly bloated.

These courtiers are listed as leading troops even when I combine the units into more manageable stacks.

I have a few questions about this.

1. Is this depressing the number of children I am having because I'm running up against court size limits?

2. Is there a way to get rid of them?

3. Is this working as designed? Shouldn't I have to invite these guys if I want them?

 

[Vortex_13]

Marry them off matrilineally. They'll leave your court and go to their wives.

 

[Galaahd]

I must say I like the fact that they are listed as Lowborn, since if you give them some land they will adopt a proper last name instead of being "of <random county name>".

 

[MasterOfGrey]

I must say I like the fact that they are listed as Lowborn, since if you give them some land they will adopt a proper last name instead of being "of <random county name>".

This is a very useful thing to know.

 

[Dracko81]

73 Courtiers in my current game, 52 Levies will do that though I guess.

I can still make another 6 levies and just won a crusade for and conquered the remaining parts of Andalasin (southern iberia arabic kingdom) and won a papal approved invasion of France, so when those lands all become leviable it will be much higher.

This does not have any effect on you producing children, but it does have an effect on your courtiers.

 

[Zorlond]

It's even worse than you think.

Take a Retinue unit. Pair it with a regular levy with no leader in the same army.
In the army balance window, put the levy in the same position as the Retinue.
Next to the image of the character in both units is an up arrow. This normally lets you swap leaders if you've got more than one in a position.
Click the up arrow on the levy's blank leader.
Every click creates a new general for the Retinue, who immediately takes control of the army position.

I ended up with 30 new men in my court in less than a game-day before I realized why it wasn't letting me cancel out the retinue's leader...

 

[JScott991]

They should remove this feature and just make invite general an option.

I don't need all these guys and they slow down the game.

 

[Spartanlemur]

If you're the ERE they come in incredibly handy. I allocate all of my new territories to these lowborn generals. Better than having swathes of Doukas's and Palailogos's everywhere

 

[Hootieleece]

I was wondering why game was beginnig to lag........I had just become HRE Emperor and just inherited about 30+ knights retinues.My Court suddenly had 70 members.

I agree this random general spam is killing the game.........better for them to put button in intrigue screen to invite general to court.(like debutante,holy man, and Noble)

 

[Hardin4188]

I also was wondering why my court was always so large now.

 

[KylesWorld]

Explains a few things. I like the invite a general/warrior option.

 

[brucepm]

I actually quite love it. As Roman Emperor I give conquered territories to generals (legates) who have distinguished themselves in battle, regardless of nobility or lowborn status! It's like my own little meritocracy, mixed with a little bit of cursus honorum. It's great.

 

[Lord Finnish]

I give them land. The fact they get a proper surname rather than the "of [X]" is a very nice thing.

 

[whosthebestcop]

I'm surprised it wasn't fixed in the 1. 07b patch.

Plus your raised levies start with no general. .

 

[HobbesMkII]

If you're the ERE they come in incredibly handy. I allocate all of my new territories to these lowborn generals. Better than having swathes of Doukas's and Palailogos's everywhere

Yeah, it's a great way to fill Barony level titles like Cities and Churches as well, rather than generating some new guy each time. But, overall, it can get to be kind of a pain if you're not expanding fast enough.

 

[Mel_E]

I do hope they can fix that in the next patch. I would hate to see my court filled with people, as I prefer to keep it tight and clean.

But somehow if you do manage to collect 300 generals in your court, then I guess... THIS IS SPARTA!

 

[Yxklyx]

I think I'll skip the DLC until they fix this. Right now it just gives some new Byzantine stuff and retinues.

 

[grumphie]

instead of just inviting a general(which we could use for everything, like inviting a capable steward for some gold), make it a toggleable button hwne creating a retinue. this way you can get a capable new general if you i.e. are creating a new army and need 3 new leader but forget about them for the 20 etinues supporting them.

 

[HolyOne]

But somehow if you do manage to collect 300 generals in your court, then I guess... THIS IS SPARTA!

Challenge accepted!

 

[EmperorBobman]

My problem is that it makes leaders irrelevant. With the way these guys are generated you almost always have a super capable general to use. It's also made my court an utter mess. I don't even try to manage it anymore in my games.